Installed Games

[Sean Davis]

As we only ship two games, and both are small, I don't see much of a gain
by removing gnome-mines or gnome-sudoku.  I feel that including games in
the default installation makes Xubuntu feel more human-oriented (not quite
as dry as others have mentioned).  The argument exists that users can
install whichever games they want at any time... but simple games like
Mines and Sudoku are meant to be quick diversions as opposed to time sinks
like some of the larger titles.

As they function for me, I fire them up while waiting for other things to
happen (like an installation to finish).  No extra packages to install, no
extra work to be done.  Click the menu, open the game, play, and continue
as I was before.  Others may use these games to the same effect.

Size-wise, the games seem to only be a few MB (this is not the definitive
measure by any means)...

$ sudo apt-get autoremove gnome-mines gnome-sudoku
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  gnome-mines gnome-sudoku
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 2 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
After this operation, 3,285 kB disk space will be freed.

Thanks.
- Sean

On Thu Jan 29 2015 at 8:51:59 AM Toni Sissala <toni.sissala at gmail.com>
wrote:

> On 29.1.2015 14:48, Elfy wrote:
>
> On 29/01/15 09:59, PK wrote:
>
> [SNIP]
>
>   The installation packages of most of these games take even less space
> on the iso, than an average wallpaper.....
>
> For instance: in Xubuntu 14.04, the installation package of AisleRiot
> Solitaire is only half a megabyte: 585 kB, to be exact. And the
> installation package of Minesweeper (gnome-mines) is only one third of a
> megabyte: 298 kB.
>
>  What problem does removing them solve? :-)
>
>
> Who said there's a problem?
>
> The subject came up in a meeting - there were only 2 or 3 people there so
> it got taken here for more discussion.
>
>
> If there isn't a problem with having these games installed by default,
> then what is there to gain by not having them installed by default?
>
> You asked for comments on your first post. It would be helpful to know why
> this discussion has started and what is there to gain by having them / not
> having them installed by default.
>
> According to PK the games only take about a megabyte of space on the iso.
> So far, I haven't figured out the purpose of not shipping these two games
> by default, other than obviously saving space on the iso or saving
> resources when packaging.
>
> On the topic:
> I would like to see 2-4 games installed by default. These games should be
> the most generic ones: minesweeper, solitaire... There could also be a
> hyperlink pointing to games-category in Software Center included in the
> games-folder in Whisker-menu. Small games are a great way for a beginner to
> start their adventures on Linux! They are also pretty well presented in
> Software Center, so installing them should not be a problem.
>
>
>
>  Regards, Pjotr.
>
> 2015-01-29 9:36 GMT+01:00 Ivà Burgos <iva.burgos at ubuntu.cat>:
>
>>  2015-01-29 8:57 GMT+01:00 Elfy <ub.untu at btinternet.com>:
>>
>>> On 28/01/15 07:54, Elfy wrote:
>>> > Discussion started on the subject of removing games from the install at
>>> > the last meeting, taking this to the list for more comments.
>>> >
>>>
>>>  We're not going to be adding games - the question is whether to remove
>>> the couple we do see.
>>>
>>>
>>  And... why would we remove the couple games?
>>
>>  Ivà.
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