Roadmap for Trusty Tahr out of date?

George DiceGeorge dicegeorge at
Fri Feb 14 16:12:56 UTC 2014

Roadmap for Trusty Tahr out of date?

I think it deals with things that ended in 2013 doesnt it?
Unfortunately it doesn’t mention a year.

Its 2 clicks from the homepage
click  [The Community - Get Involved]
then [Help create the Xubuntu Roadmap, especially in the Brainstorming phase]
also has a typing mistake on the right where it repeats:
  a.. The the Feature Tour

From: Pasi Lallinaho 
Sent: Friday, 14 February, 2014 15:44
To: Xubuntu Development Discussion 
Subject: Re: How to fix Xubuntu 12.04.4?

The common infrastructure notes are, well, common, and we can't help them appearing in our release notes. It's fair to expect we had noted this in the Xubuntu-specific notes, but that slipped through. At this point, after four point releases, and with three(!) of them this issue being unnoticed, I don't think it makes much difference to change the wording.

However, you're welcome to help us in making sure the notes are correct in the future. The team starts preparing release notes usually about a week before any release, and pretty much final ISOs are available at that time, so you can test them and join #xubuntu-devel to discuss what should go into the release notes and what not.


On 14/02/14 17:15, Michael Fischer wrote:

  Ok, now why we are cheating in the release notes then: ?

  We should at least fix that if we feel Ubuntu 12.04.4 is the wrong way to go and give some reason so the Ubuntu people have a chance to learn from us. ;-)


  On 14.02.2014 15:27, PK wrote:

    That would make the "right" iso harder to find.... Currently, Xubuntu 12.04 is in the unique position that is has both point releases and the original LTS kernel. AFAIK, it's the only official member of the Ubuntu family with these features. 

    Xubuntu 12.04.4 is up to date *and* rock solid, with optimal compatibility for older hardware. Therefore an excellent choice for those who need to replace Windows XP on their machines: a huge potential user base! 

    If Xubuntu 12.04.4 would make the "kernel jump" just like Ubuntu, it's compatibility with older XP machines would decrease noticeably.

    Regards, Pjotr.

    2014-02-14 10:52 GMT+00:00 Michael Fischer <fischerfm at>:

      I agree fully with you: Xubuntu 12.04 should stay on 3.2.0 kernel. But why should Xubuntu 12.04.4 stay on it? If everybody can still use the 12.04 distro if having driver trouble?


      On 14.02.2014 11:38, PK wrote:

        I don't agree with this. In my opinion, Xubuntu 12.04 should stay with the 3.2.x-kernel. 

        Because it's currently the only kernel (plus the version that goes with it) that still supports the restricted nvidia-96 driver for old Nvidia video cards. Same goes for third-party SiS 671 drivers.

        Regards, Pjotr.

        2014-02-14 10:23 GMT+01:00 Michael Fischer <fischerfm at>:

          Xubuntu 12.04.4 LTS does not support the hardware stack Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS supports. It stays on the 3.2.0 kernel instead. What is the process to have this fixed? Withdraw Xubuntu 12.04.4 LTS or create a Xubuntu 12.04.4a LTS? I am ready to fix this distro (at least for 686 and amd64 architectures) and make it available for download through my FTP and HTTP servers. What is the correct process for this?


When booting the Xubuntu 12.04.4 LTS Desktop CD this is what I get:

cat /etc/issue
Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS \n \l


uname -ar
Linux xubuntu 3.2.0-58-generic #88-Ubuntu SMP Tue Dec 3 17:37:58 UTC 
2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

which is the kernel of Xubuntu 12.04.

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