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<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman"><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt"><STRONG>Roadmap
for Trusty Tahr out of date?</STRONG></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>I think it deals with things that ended in 2013 doesnt it?</DIV>
<DIV>Unfortunately it doesn’t mention a year.</DIV>
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<DIV>Its 2 clicks from the homepage</DIV>
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<DIV>click [<A style='href: "http://xubuntu.org/contribute/"'><FONT
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=pasi@shimmerproject.org
href="mailto:pasi@shimmerproject.org">Pasi Lallinaho</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, 14 February, 2014 15:44</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com
href="mailto:xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com">Xubuntu Development Discussion</A>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: How to fix Xubuntu 12.04.4?</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=moz-cite-prefix>The common infrastructure notes are, well, common,
and we can't help them appearing in our release notes. It's fair to expect we
had noted this in the Xubuntu-specific notes, but that slipped through. At this
point, after four point releases, and with three(!) of them this issue being
unnoticed, I don't think it makes much difference to change the
wording.<BR><BR>However, you're welcome to help us in making sure the notes are
correct in the future. The team starts preparing release notes usually about a
week before any release, and pretty much final ISOs are available at that time,
so you can test them and join #xubuntu-devel to discuss what should go into the
release notes and what not.<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR>Pasi<BR><BR>On 14/02/14 17:15,
Michael Fischer wrote:<BR></DIV>
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<P>Ok, now why we are cheating in the release notes then:</P>
<P><A class=moz-txt-link-freetext
href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/Xubuntu#PrecisePangolin.2BAC8-ReleaseNotes.2BAC8-CommonInfrastructure.Ubuntu_Kernel_3.11"
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?</P>
<P>We should at least fix that if we feel Ubuntu 12.04.4 is the wrong way to
go and give some reason so the Ubuntu people have a chance to learn from us.
;-)<BR></P>
<P>FMF</P><BR>On 14.02.2014 15:27, PK wrote:<BR></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr>That would make the "right" iso harder to find.... Currently,
Xubuntu 12.04 is in the unique position that is has both point releases and
the original LTS kernel. AFAIK, it's the only official member of the Ubuntu
family with these features.
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<DIV>Xubuntu 12.04.4 is up to date *and* rock solid, with optimal
compatibility for older hardware. Therefore an excellent choice for those
who need to replace Windows XP on their machines: a huge potential user
base! </DIV>
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<DIV>If Xubuntu 12.04.4 would make the "kernel jump" just like Ubuntu, it's
compatibility with older XP machines would decrease noticeably.</DIV>
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<DIV>Regards, Pjotr.</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>2014-02-14 10:52 GMT+00:00 Michael Fischer <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:fischerfm@yahoo.de" target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">fischerfm@yahoo.de</A>></SPAN>:<BR>
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<DIV>I agree fully with you: Xubuntu 12.04 should stay on 3.2.0 kernel.
But why should Xubuntu 12.04.4 stay on it? If everybody can still use the
12.04 distro if having driver trouble?<BR><BR>FMF
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<DIV class=h5><BR><BR>On 14.02.2014 11:38, PK wrote:<BR></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>I don't agree with this. In my opinion, Xubuntu 12.04 should stay
with the 3.2.x-kernel. <BR><BR>Because it's currently the only kernel
(plus the X.org version that goes with it) that still supports the
restricted nvidia-96 driver for old Nvidia video cards. Same goes for
third-party SiS 671 drivers.<BR><BR></DIV>Regards, Pjotr.<BR></DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>2014-02-14 10:23 GMT+01:00 Michael Fischer <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:fischerfm@yahoo.de" target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">fischerfm@yahoo.de</A>></SPAN>:<BR>
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<DIV text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">Xubuntu 12.04.4 LTS does not
support the hardware stack Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS supports. It stays on
the 3.2.0 kernel instead. What is the process to have this fixed?
Withdraw Xubuntu 12.04.4 LTS or create a Xubuntu 12.04.4a LTS? I am
ready to fix this distro (at least for 686 and amd64 architectures)
and make it available for download through my FTP and HTTP servers.
What is the correct process for this?<BR><BR>FMF<BR><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE style="FONT-VARIANT: normal; WHITE-SPACE: pre-wrap; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; LETTER-SPACING: normal; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; TEXT-INDENT: 0px">When booting the Xubuntu 12.04.4 LTS Desktop CD this is what I get:
cat /etc/issue
Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS \n \l
and
uname -ar
Linux xubuntu 3.2.0-58-generic #88-Ubuntu SMP Tue Dec 3 17:37:58 UTC
2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
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