Fwd: [RFC] 12.04.5

Roberto J Dohnert robertdohnert at gmail.com
Fri Feb 7 20:01:29 UTC 2014

Aside from the trusty enablment stack, the only other compelling piece 
would be XFCE 4.12, which I cant seem to get a precise, no pun intended, 
release date.  Releasing the trusty kernel through updates would be 
optimal.  Of course, we, the Black Lab Linux team, are supporting 12.04 
for two years past the scheduled Ubuntu support date until 2019.  So, we 
may do a 14.10 stack as our last major release, we may work on that for 
Xubuntu as well.  But that will be determined on where 14.04 LTS is at 
that time.

Roberto J. Dohnert
Lead Developer
Black Lab Linux

On 02/07/2014 02:30 PM, Pasi Lallinaho wrote:
> If we don't need to update the ISO really, we can just release 12.04.5 
> as is, with the updates that have landed to Ubuntu core after .4. On 
> the other hand, if there is something we want in, it's another 
> possibility to get stuff in an ISO, not just updates.
> I would note that there is only 1 year left of Xubuntu support for 
> 12.04, so not sure if it makes any difference to land big SRU's now, 
> since people need to upgrade to 14.04 somewhat shortly anyway.
> Cheers,
> Pasi
> On 07/02/14 20:12, Stephen Michael Kellat wrote:
>> FYI
>> How does this align with our planning?
>> Stephen Michael Kellat
>> In the basement cafeteria on lunch
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>> *From:* Leann Ogasawara <leann.ogasawara at canonical.com 
>>> <mailto:leann.ogasawara at canonical.com>>
>>> *Date:* February 7, 2014, 11:00:12 AM EST
>>> *To:* ubuntu-release at lists.ubuntu.com 
>>> <mailto:ubuntu-release at lists.ubuntu.com>, 
>>> ubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com <mailto:ubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com>
>>> *Subject:* *[RFC] 12.04.5*
>>> Hi All,
>>> With 12.04.4 having just released, I wanted to propose the idea of 
>>> having a 12.04.5 point release for Precise.
>>> As many are aware, recent 12.04.x point releases have shipped with a 
>>> newer kernel and X stack by default for hardware enablement 
>>> purposes.  Maintainers of these enablement stacks have agreed to 
>>> support these until a Trusty based enablement stack is supported in 
>>> Precise.  Once a Trusty enablement stack is supported, all previous 
>>> enablement stacks would EOL and be asked to migrate to the final 
>>> Trusty based enablement stack which would continue to be supported 
>>> for the remaining life of Precise.
>>> Currently, 12.04.4 is our final point release for Precise.  12.04.4 
>>> shipped with a Saucy enablement stack by default.  This Saucy 
>>> enablement stack in Precise will eventually EOL in favor of the 
>>> Trusty enablement stack.  Once that happens, our final point release 
>>> for Precise will be delivering an EOL'd enablement stack.  This 
>>> seems unfortunate and inappropriate.  I would like to propose having 
>>> a 5th point release for Precise which would deliver the Trusty 
>>> enablement stack for Precise.
>>> Providing a 12.04.5 point release will add no additional maintenance 
>>> burden upon teams supporting enablement stacks in Precise.  It would 
>>> require some extra effort on part of the Canonical Foundations Team 
>>> as well as the Ubuntu Release Team to spin up an additional set of 
>>> images and testing coordination etc.  However, I informally 
>>> discussed this with a few members of each of those teams and the 
>>> tentative agreement was that 12.04.5 was a reasonable request which 
>>> could be accommodated.  Collectively we could find no compelling 
>>> reason to not provide 12.04.5.  We also discussed that a 12.04.5 
>>> release should be optional for the Flavors to participate in. 
>>>  Additionally, we would want to purposely avoid clashing the 14.04.1 
>>> and 12.04.5 release dates and would suggest releasing 14.04.1 first 
>>> and 12.04.5 after (exact date TBD).
>>> What are other's thoughts here?  Does anyone have a compelling 
>>> reason for not providing a 12.04.5 point release?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Leann
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