Fwd: [RFC] 12.04.5

Jackson Doak noskcaj at ubuntu.com
Fri Feb 7 20:03:45 UTC 2014

4.12 will be difficult to get to 14.04, let alone backporting it all the
way to precise

On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 7:01 AM, Roberto J Dohnert
<robertdohnert at gmail.com>wrote:

>  Aside from the trusty enablment stack, the only other compelling piece
> would be XFCE 4.12, which I cant seem to get a precise, no pun intended,
> release date.  Releasing the trusty kernel through updates would be
> optimal.  Of course, we, the Black Lab Linux team, are supporting 12.04 for
> two years past the scheduled Ubuntu support date until 2019.  So, we may do
> a 14.10 stack as our last major release, we may work on that for Xubuntu as
> well.  But that will be determined on where 14.04 LTS is at that time.
> Roberto J. Dohnert
> Lead Developer
> Black Lab Linux
> http://www.blacklablinux.org
> On 02/07/2014 02:30 PM, Pasi Lallinaho wrote:
> If we don't need to update the ISO really, we can just release 12.04.5 as
> is, with the updates that have landed to Ubuntu core after .4. On the other
> hand, if there is something we want in, it's another possibility to get
> stuff in an ISO, not just updates.
> I would note that there is only 1 year left of Xubuntu support for 12.04,
> so not sure if it makes any difference to land big SRU's now, since people
> need to upgrade to 14.04 somewhat shortly anyway.
> Cheers,
> Pasi
> On 07/02/14 20:12, Stephen Michael Kellat wrote:
>  How does this align with our planning?
>  Stephen Michael Kellat
> In the basement cafeteria on lunch
> Begin forwarded message:
>  *From:* Leann Ogasawara <leann.ogasawara at canonical.com>
> *Date:* February 7, 2014, 11:00:12 AM EST
> *To:* ubuntu-release at lists.ubuntu.com, ubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com
> *Subject:* *[RFC] 12.04.5*
>   Hi All,
>  With 12.04.4 having just released, I wanted to propose the idea of
> having a 12.04.5 point release for Precise.
>  As many are aware, recent 12.04.x point releases have shipped with a
> newer kernel and X stack by default for hardware enablement purposes.
>  Maintainers of these enablement stacks have agreed to support these until
> a Trusty based enablement stack is supported in Precise.  Once a Trusty
> enablement stack is supported, all previous enablement stacks would EOL and
> be asked to migrate to the final Trusty based enablement stack which would
> continue to be supported for the remaining life of Precise.
>  Currently, 12.04.4 is our final point release for Precise.  12.04.4
> shipped with a Saucy enablement stack by default.  This Saucy enablement
> stack in Precise will eventually EOL in favor of the Trusty enablement
> stack.  Once that happens, our final point release for Precise will be
> delivering an EOL'd enablement stack.  This seems unfortunate and
> inappropriate.  I would like to propose having a 5th point release for
> Precise which would deliver the Trusty enablement stack for Precise.
>  Providing a 12.04.5 point release will add no additional maintenance
> burden upon teams supporting enablement stacks in Precise.  It would
> require some extra effort on part of the Canonical Foundations Team as well
> as the Ubuntu Release Team to spin up an additional set of images and
> testing coordination etc.  However, I informally discussed this with a few
> members of each of those teams and the tentative agreement was that 12.04.5
> was a reasonable request which could be accommodated.  Collectively we
> could find no compelling reason to not provide 12.04.5.  We also discussed
> that a 12.04.5 release should be optional for the Flavors to participate
> in.  Additionally, we would want to purposely avoid clashing the 14.04.1
> and 12.04.5 release dates and would suggest releasing 14.04.1 first and
> 12.04.5 after (exact date TBD).
>  What are other's thoughts here?  Does anyone have a compelling reason
> for not providing a 12.04.5 point release?
>  Thanks,
> Leann
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