Update of the minimum requierements

[Eero Tamminen]

Hi,

On torstai 28 marraskuu 2013, Will Partridge wrote:
> Do you think you could go into BIOS and change the amount of RAM the
> graphics is gobbling down to 4-8MB?
> Maybe the old BIOS won't support this feature, try it anyway... It may
> help with your issue.

Few tens of MBs isn't going to make any real difference.  Systems
having 256 MB memory are as likely to have integrated graphics as not,
so I think that Inti's test result was completely valid.

Live CD GUI isn't really lighter [1] than installed Xubuntu system
and for latter we recommend 512 MB...

[1] even if it doesn't run every always-running program that installed
Xubuntu does, live CD setup has extra things that can need a lot of memory.


	- Eero

> On 28/11/2013 12:45, Inti Alonso wrote:
> > Im testing in a desktop with an AMD Duron 1.6, 256mb of ram (minus 64
> > from integrated SIS graphics).
> > 
> > Xubuntu 13.10 Live CD keep loading for ever, I waited for 30 min and
> > the live sesion never showed. I guess 256mn of ram is not the minimun
> > for the live cd.
>
> > Lubuntu 13.10 Alternate CD: Boots and install without problems, run a
> > little slow but is tolerable.
>
> > I think that Xubuntu should keep building the Alternate images, at
> > least for the i386 architechture, which I guess, are the slowest
> > system that may need Xubuntu.
> > 
> > 
> > On Thursday, November 28, 2013 4:03 AM, Pasi Lallinaho
> > <pasi at shimmerproject.org> wrote:
> > 
> > On 28/11/13 09:28, Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph wrote:
> > > On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Richard Elkins
> > > 
> > > <richard.elkins at gmail.com <mailto:richard.elkins at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >> Will,
> > >> 
> > >> Not to discourage you .....
> > > 
> > > Uh oh, no response, I fear we may have scared him off :)
> > > 
> > >> Performance test plan?
> > >> 
> > >> Goals/design
> > >> Individual tests
> > >> What do you intend to hold constant and what will you vary?
> > >> VM host machine environment E.g. hardware CPU/GPU/chip-sets, Linux
> > 
> > kernel
> > 
> > >> video module, X-Windows video driver
> > >> VM settings to be used (chipset, EFI, display, etc.)
> > > 
> > > These are very good points so in an attempt to move this along...
> > > 
> > > I'll start off by saying that we do now recommend a user have 512M of
> > > RAM once it's installed, which might be OK.
> > > 
> > > Also worthy of note, we offer 32 and 64-bit versions. 64-bit tends to
> > > take more RAM so we'll want to pay attention to that.
> > > 
> > > Now, I'd like to propose the following testing plan that it would be
> > > great to see results from a few folks for to test a random smattering
> > > of CPUs and other factors:
> > > 
> > > Test 1: 12.04 Alternate CD, 32 & 64-bit
> > > 
> > > Our website claims you can install 12.04 Alternate on 64M of RAM, I'm
> > > skeptical but we should start here :)
> > > 
> > > Use the 12.04 Alternate CD installer on a VM with 64M of RAM and a
> > > single CPU - I suspect the installer will finish but will it even
> > > boot?
> > > 
> > > If not, add RAM by increments of 64M of RAM until you get a system
> > > that boots and you can log in to.
> > > 
> > > Report results (remember, we say 512M once it's installed, so if it's
> > > slow that might be ok)
> > > 
> > > Test 2: 12.04 Live CD, 32 & 64-bit
> > > 
> > > Our website claims you can install 12.04 standard on 256M of RAM,
> > > this may be possible - let's try! Same methodology as above.
> > > 
> > > Test 3: 13.10 Live CD, 32 & 64-bit
> > > 
> > > Did 12.04 work on 256M? Can 13.10 as well? Let's try! Same
> > 
> > methodology as above.
> > 
> > > These tests will take time, so if you want to just do one of these
> > > tests - great, reply with your results of that one test and enjoy
> > > your week! Every test done will be helpful in determining where we
> > > stand.
> > > 
> > > Thanks everyone.
> > 
> > Ultimately we might want to see what the requirements for the installed
> > "core" system would be once we progress with that.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Pasi
> 
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