Xubuntu "papercuts" and push for getting translations?

Alok quantamcore at gmail.com
Wed Nov 30 05:16:26 UTC 2011


This is a nice set of papercuts i would too like to be fixed in by the time
the LTS is released. Some of these might not be as easy as they look.

On 30 November 2011 04:45, Charlie Kravetz <cjk at teamcharliesangels.com>wrote:

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> On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 00:33:39 +0200
> Eero Tamminen <oak at helsinkinet.fi> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I don't have currently a working Xubuntu installation (disk broke), and
> > don't have time to test Alpha/Beta ISOs, but I would have some
> suggestions
> > on what to check from the test ISOs, based on looking at few different
> > distros recent live-CDs with following requirements in mind:
> >
> > 1. Well localized (in my case, to Finnish)
> > 2. Robust, doesn't crash etc
> > 3. Easy to use; automatic security updates, codec & locale installation,
> >    geek stuff is behind andvanced settings, UI is consistent etc
> > 4. Stable, doesn't change UI or apps in every release
> > 5. Mature, has the basic features one expects from moderm desktop
> > 6. Needs to work on older HW (0.75GB RAM, 1.4Ghz single core CPU,
> >    not much 3D accel to speak of)
> >
> > (The distro I'm looking for would be something I set up for older
> > relatives.)
> >
> > So far I've tested within last week:
> > * Windows 7 (on newer machine)
> > * Ubuntu Unity 10.10 -> web demo looked fine, live-CD froze at bootup
> > * OpenSUSE Gnome 12.1 -> went to ugly/slow Gnome3 fallback mode
> > * OpenSUSE LXDE 11.4 -> lacking in localization and app features
> > * Debian Stable -> lacking on automation
> >
> > Xubuntu 11.10 seemed more suitable than above ones.
> >
> >
> > However, there were several trivial issues in Xubuntu 11.10 that
> > it would be nice if somebody could check in the test releases
> > and see if they could get fixed for the next LTS release:
> >
> > * Calendar applet (Orage).  Unlike in all other distros/desktops
> >   and unlike all other Xubuntu panel applets, right clicking on
> >   the applet doesn't open the calendar below the applet.  You
> >   need to double-click and Calendar opens inconveniently to
> >   the middle of the screen.
> >
> >   (Seems like easy to fix "papercut".)
> >
> > * Many of the items in the applications menu have just "some wierd"
> >   app name which doesn't describe what it is for.  For example:
> >   Catfish, Leafpad, Onboard, Xfburn, gThumb, Transmission, Gigolo,
> >   GParted, IBus, Abiword, Gnumeric, Parole (, gmusicbrowser).
> >
> >   It would be good to have a proper name for each of the applications
> >   on the default install (Parole was even lacking a mouse-over
> >   description telling what it was for).
> >
> >   Updating these needs localization changes too...
> >
> > * While Xubuntu has fairly OK localization for a Linux distro, it's
> >   clearly inferior to Windows or OSX.  Is there any effort before
> >   releases to get localization coverage statistics for the default apps
> >   and to get things which aren't fully translated, fixed by poking
> >   translators and requesting translation help on the devel/user
> >   list/blogs?
> >
> >   (I could do some Finnish translations this and next week if somebody
> >   handles pushing the translated message catalogs forward.)
> >
> > * High contract mode makes some icons to lose nearly all contrast
> >   they had because of the colors used in them.
> >
> >   -> High contrast mode may need its own icons...
> >
> > * Of all these distros, Xubuntu website provides by far least
> >   info on itself, even the screenshots are just tiny/useless
> >   thumbnails (Ubuntu "live" demo within browser was best...).
> >
> > The roadmap blueprints listed an item for the website, but not much
> > details and there were no mentions on roadmap about other points
> > I mentioned above.
> >
> >
> >       - Eero
> >
> > PS. This is what I skipped in my tests:
> > - KDE4 stuff, I assumed it to have same issues as Gnome3 stuff
> > - MiNT Linux, it lives on sponsoring and seems a bit on geeky side,
> >   so its stability / long term prospects seem less guaranteed
> > - Fedora, as it's not really intended for LTS like usage
> >
>
> Please do NOT expect Alpha1 to be fully usable. This is the first
> images of a new release cycle. They are expected to be installable, not
> ready for users.
>
> - --
> Charlie Kravetz
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