This is a nice set of papercuts i would too like to be fixed in by the time the LTS is released. Some of these might not be as easy as they look. <div class="gmail_quote">On 30 November 2011 04:45, Charlie Kravetz <<a href="mailto:cjk@teamcharliesangels.com">cjk@teamcharliesangels.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 <div><div class="h5"> On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 00:33:39 +0200 Eero Tamminen <<a href="mailto:oak@helsinkinet.fi">oak@helsinkinet.fi</a>> wrote: > Hi, > > I don't have currently a working Xubuntu installation (disk broke), and > don't have time to test Alpha/Beta ISOs, but I would have some suggestions > on what to check from the test ISOs, based on looking at few different > distros recent live-CDs with following requirements in mind: > > 1. Well localized (in my case, to Finnish) > 2. Robust, doesn't crash etc > 3. Easy to use; automatic security updates, codec & locale installation, > geek stuff is behind andvanced settings, UI is consistent etc > 4. Stable, doesn't change UI or apps in every release > 5. Mature, has the basic features one expects from moderm desktop > 6. Needs to work on older HW (0.75GB RAM, 1.4Ghz single core CPU, > not much 3D accel to speak of) > > (The distro I'm looking for would be something I set up for older > relatives.) > > So far I've tested within last week: > * Windows 7 (on newer machine) > * Ubuntu Unity 10.10 -> web demo looked fine, live-CD froze at bootup > * OpenSUSE Gnome 12.1 -> went to ugly/slow Gnome3 fallback mode > * OpenSUSE LXDE 11.4 -> lacking in localization and app features > * Debian Stable -> lacking on automation > > Xubuntu 11.10 seemed more suitable than above ones. > > > However, there were several trivial issues in Xubuntu 11.10 that > it would be nice if somebody could check in the test releases > and see if they could get fixed for the next LTS release: > > * Calendar applet (Orage). Unlike in all other distros/desktops > and unlike all other Xubuntu panel applets, right clicking on > the applet doesn't open the calendar below the applet. You > need to double-click and Calendar opens inconveniently to > the middle of the screen. > > (Seems like easy to fix "papercut".) > > * Many of the items in the applications menu have just "some wierd" > app name which doesn't describe what it is for. For example: > Catfish, Leafpad, Onboard, Xfburn, gThumb, Transmission, Gigolo, > GParted, IBus, Abiword, Gnumeric, Parole (, gmusicbrowser). > > It would be good to have a proper name for each of the applications > on the default install (Parole was even lacking a mouse-over > description telling what it was for). > > Updating these needs localization changes too... > > * While Xubuntu has fairly OK localization for a Linux distro, it's > clearly inferior to Windows or OSX. Is there any effort before > releases to get localization coverage statistics for the default apps > and to get things which aren't fully translated, fixed by poking > translators and requesting translation help on the devel/user > list/blogs? > > (I could do some Finnish translations this and next week if somebody > handles pushing the translated message catalogs forward.) > > * High contract mode makes some icons to lose nearly all contrast > they had because of the colors used in them. > > -> High contrast mode may need its own icons... > > * Of all these distros, Xubuntu website provides by far least > info on itself, even the screenshots are just tiny/useless > thumbnails (Ubuntu "live" demo within browser was best...). > > The roadmap blueprints listed an item for the website, but not much > details and there were no mentions on roadmap about other points > I mentioned above. > > > - Eero > > PS. This is what I skipped in my tests: > - KDE4 stuff, I assumed it to have same issues as Gnome3 stuff > - MiNT Linux, it lives on sponsoring and seems a bit on geeky side, > so its stability / long term prospects seem less guaranteed > - Fedora, as it's not really intended for LTS like usage > </div></div>Please do NOT expect Alpha1 to be fully usable. This is the first images of a new release cycle. They are expected to be installable, not ready for users. - -- Charlie Kravetz Linux Registered User Number 425914 [<a href="http://counter.li.org/" target="_blank">http://counter.li.org/</a>] Never let anyone steal your DREAM. 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