default applications for natty

Vincent mailinglists at
Sun Jan 23 11:02:32 UTC 2011

2011/1/8 Simon Steinbeiß <simon.steinbeiss at>

> Wow, a lot has been said here since I wrote my email two days ago, I guess
> it will be hard to address all of your thoughts/inputs, so I'll focus on a
> few.
> Browser:
> The argument that chromium doesn't look integrated is only true for version
> <9, later versions are gtk-themeable and the theme I'm currently working on
> already themes chromium (it will basically look like FF does now). If
> wanted/needed I can provide screenshots.
I'd love to see some screenshots of that, because I'm currently running the
Chromium daily build and it doesn't look integrated at all (e.g. tabs look
really out of place).

> Two important points seem to be the updates and the larger package-size,
> the first one seeming more major to me. So if I understand the implications
> of what Micah wanted to say with this correctly it means that our default
> browser could break within a cycle via an update (which is pretty bad imo).
> I assume (I have not really checked) and have heard several times that
> chromium uses less memory than FF, it definitely feels snappier.
> All in all personally I vote for sticking to FF unless the problematic
> updates can be prevented/solved somehow.
> Email:
> I think that the average user will be able to handle either Thunderbird or
> Claws. While it's true that Claws' gui is a bit cluttered, it also bears a
> lot of features/plugins for power-users.
> If we find out that we can get rid of xulrunner (and maybe even save some
> megabytes on the package-size) by removing Thunderbird as well I vote for
> going with Claws.
> Music:
> I personally can't say that I like Exaile. I've been working on the above
> mentioned gmusicbrowser for a while now, upstream is very responsive and
> cooperative. The only issues I can see now are that it doesn't support
> webradio (yet) and iPod-support is also unavailable. Its package-size is
> also pretty small (2mb smaller than Exaile), here's a link to the version I
> maintain (you can also test it via the ppa):
> It would be nice if any of you have the time (unfortunately I don't
> currently) to set up a wiki-page to collect and order the most important
> arguments brought up in this discussion. Mailinglists are nice because it
> feels a lot more responsive than commonly edited wiki-pages, but for
> structuring the arguments it would be helpful.
> Simon
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