default applications for natty

Simon Steinbeiß simon.steinbeiss at
Sat Jan 8 10:29:42 UTC 2011

Wow, a lot has been said here since I wrote my email two days ago, I guess it will be hard to address all of your thoughts/inputs, so I'll focus on a few.

The argument that chromium doesn't look integrated is only true for version <9, later versions are gtk-themeable and the theme I'm currently working on already themes chromium (it will basically look like FF does now). If wanted/needed I can provide screenshots.

Two important points seem to be the updates and the larger package-size, the first one seeming more major to me. So if I understand the implications of what Micah wanted to say with this correctly it means that our default browser could break within a cycle via an update (which is pretty bad imo).

I assume (I have not really checked) and have heard several times that chromium uses less memory than FF, it definitely feels snappier.

All in all personally I vote for sticking to FF unless the problematic updates can be prevented/solved somehow.

I think that the average user will be able to handle either Thunderbird or Claws. While it's true that Claws' gui is a bit cluttered, it also bears a lot of features/plugins for power-users.
If we find out that we can get rid of xulrunner (and maybe even save some megabytes on the package-size) by removing Thunderbird as well I vote for going with Claws.

I personally can't say that I like Exaile. I've been working on the above mentioned gmusicbrowser for a while now, upstream is very responsive and cooperative. The only issues I can see now are that it doesn't support webradio (yet) and iPod-support is also unavailable. Its package-size is also pretty small (2mb smaller than Exaile), here's a link to the version I maintain (you can also test it via the ppa):

It would be nice if any of you have the time (unfortunately I don't currently) to set up a wiki-page to collect and order the most important arguments brought up in this discussion. Mailinglists are nice because it feels a lot more responsive than commonly edited wiki-pages, but for structuring the arguments it would be helpful.


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