Fwd: New Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter section

Chris cyber.druif at gmail.com
Tue Dec 6 14:37:45 UTC 2011

Hai Charlie (and the rest),

I think something went wrong with your reply so I forwarded to everyone
@Scott K: I think it's a problem with using a lot of terms side-by-side and
mixing things up even. As you can see, the page [1] Ubuntu uses is called
Derivatives. However on that same page the officially recognized once are
suddenly called "flavor". In my humble opinion it's a more friendly term to
use, but we should get some (dare I say it?) "Unity" in our naming scheme.
It might have been my mistake, because the information [2] given by Kate
apparently also talked about Flavors. But it's important everyone knows
what the "correct" term is/should be.

I hope this clears up some of the mess (originally created to ask for help
on getting links to the meeting minutes).

With metta, Chris

[1] http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/derivatives
[2] http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/12/05/%23ubuntu-news.html starting from

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From: Charlie Kravetz <cjk at teamcharliesangels.com>
Date: Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 15:00
Subject: Re: New Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter section
To: ubuntu-news <ubuntu-news-team at lists.ubuntu.com>

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On Tue, 06 Dec 2011 00:15:42 -0500
Scott Kitterman <ubuntu at kitterman.com> wrote:

> None of these are derivatives (Mint is a derivative).  These are other
> distribution products developed in the Ubuntu project.  I think it's
> much more correct to refer to them as siblings to Ubuntu (Desktop) and
> Ubuntu Server.
> I know you didn't make up this terminology, but in no sense of the word
> is derivative correct.
> Scott K

I have heard several times that the word "derivative" is incorrect when
referring to these distributions based on Ubuntu. Why is it incorrect?

According to the definition:
derivative (comparative more derivative, superlative most derivative)

  1.   Imitative of the work of someone else.
   2. (law, copyright law) Referring to a work, such as a translation
   or adaptation, based on another work that may be subject to
   copyright restrictions.

Perhaps Kubuntu, having been developed alongside of Ubuntu is not a
derivative, but the others are very much "adapted or based on another
work" (Ubuntu). I can not any definition that excludes this adaption
from being a derivative.

Maybe an explanation of why this word is wrong is in order here?

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