New Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter section

Amber Graner akgraner at
Tue Dec 6 06:12:11 UTC 2011

On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 12:57 AM, Steve Stalcup <stalcups at> wrote:
> On Dec 5, 2011, at 10:40 PM, Scott Kitterman <ubuntu at> wrote:
>> On 12/06/2011 12:28 AM, Amber Graner wrote:
>>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 12:15 AM, Scott Kitterman <ubuntu at> wrote:
>>>> None of these are derivatives (Mint is a derivative).  These are other
>>>> distribution products developed in the Ubuntu project.  I think it's
>>>> much more correct to refer to them as siblings to Ubuntu (Desktop) and
>>>> Ubuntu Server.
>>>> I know you didn't make up this terminology, but in no sense of the word
>>>> is derivative correct.
>>> Scott why bring this up to the UWN folks who are trying their hardest
>>> to bring the news to folks, why not bring it up to the release manager or others
>>> to change this.  Chris, who is new to the news team, wanted to add a
>>> section to cover these distributions, and establish a relationship as
>>> well as let you all know what we (the news were doing).
>>> Responses like this, to someone who doesn't make those decisions don't
>>> help with encouragement, inclusion and good will.  It's like you
>>> are beating up the messenger.
>>> We on the news team are trying our best to bring coverage about as
>>> many of the flavors, derivatives, siblings or whatever you want to
>>> call them.  We were asking for your help and instead you complain
>>> about the word.  Seriously?
>> Because I find the term offensive.
>> I bring it up whenever I see it used.  I even said that I recognized he
>> was only using a term others use.
>> Why should I not bring it up?
>> It's not meant as an attack on anyone, but to express an opinion.  If
>> you're going to add a section as a part of showing appreciation, but
>> name it something that bothers someone, isn't that useful to know?
>> Scott K
> This is an insult, tbh [0].  But since when does Canonical care about any other flavor?
> [0]

I am sorry you feel this way.  I have CC'd Jono Bacon into this
conversation b/c we on UWN are community members who are just wanting
to bring the news to the masses.  I can't speak for what Canonical
does or doesn't do and I don't want this thread to be about anything
other than what it was originally intended which was to ask for your
help in making sure we could bring the community news about each of
these distributions and make the community at large aware of the
various meetings etc.

Thanks for your understanding.


Amber Graner//akgraner//

Just me Amber.

There are lots of Linux users who don't care how the kernel works, but
only want to use it. That is a tribute to how good Linux is.
Linus Torvalds

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