Jaunty Artwork

[Pasi Lallinaho]

Jannis Pohlmann wrote:
> On Sat, 07 Mar 2009 00:37:41 +0200
> Pasi Lallinaho <open at knome.fi> wrote:
>
>   
>> Hi Jannis,
>>
>> Jannis Pohlmann wrote:
>>     
>>> On Fri, 06 Mar 2009 22:48:56 +0200
>>> Pasi Lallinaho <open at knome.fi> wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> Jim Campbell wrote:
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Pasi Lallinaho <open at knome.fi
>>>>> <mailto:open at knome.fi>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>     Hello everybody,
>>>>>
>>>>>     just a quick message/request for comments about artwork to
>>>>> Jaunty. We have been discussing the artwork for Jaunty in
>>>>> #xubuntu-devel lately, as
>>>>>     many of you know.
>>>>>
>>>>>     You can look at something ready at
>>>>>     http://emonk.fi/open/xubuntu/jaunty-artwork/.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <statements of personal impressions and preferences>
>>>>> Pasi, these are beautiful.  Thank you so much for putting them
>>>>> together.  My personal preference is for GDM #2, but it is not a
>>>>> strong preference.  I think any one of them would be great.
>>>>>
>>>>> The wallpaper is super-great, too.  :)  I like how the Xubuntu
>>>>> logo is so big on the page, but so nicely integrated.
>>>>>
>>>>> Have we settled on an icon, gtk, or xfwm theme yet?  In regards to
>>>>> the GTK theme, Murrina Storm Cloud is nice looking, but it seems
>>>>> we have used it for the past 3 or 4 releases.  It would be nice
>>>>> for a change if we can find a suitable replacement.  As for xfwm4
>>>>> themes, I like Xfce 4.6's default xfwm4 theme. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Again, great work!  =)
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim
>>>>> </statements of personal impressions and preferences>
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>> Hi Jim and everybody,
>>>>
>>>> here's some comments about GTK+, icon and xfwm themes.
>>>>
>>>> GTK+ THEME
>>>>
>>>> I've also talked about the GTK+ theme selection. On
>>>> http://emonk.fi/open/xubuntu/jaunty-gtk/ you can see screenshots
>>>> from MurrinaStormCloud and Murrina-Tangoesque. I think *Cloud is
>>>> nice looking, but is a bit too contrasted. The contrast on
>>>> *Tangoesque is fine for me, but might be too uncontrasted for
>>>> many. Something between these would be perfect (that's only my
>>>> opinion) - either of them is fine for me otherwise.
>>>>
>>>> Both the themes have the problem that the scrollbar is *way* too
>>>> light for the window borders. Maybe we can just adjust this color
>>>> and the color of the window borders to fit the background.
>>>>
>>>> What comes about changing a theme, we might be a bit late on the
>>>> release cycle. I also don't have any experience on GTK+ themes, so
>>>> maybe in Karmic?
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, I suggest some action on this and totally want any feedback
>>>> and all of your opinions.
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> I'm currently using Shiki-Brave which looks very nice in combination
>>> with your wallpapers.
>>>
>>>   
>>>       
>> I suppose you are talking about the Shiki-colors at xfce-look.org
>> (http://www.xfce-look.org/content/show.php?content=86717)? Are you
>> referring to the MurrineSVN or Clearlooks version?
>>     
>
> Clearlooks. SVN sounds unstable and probably shouldn't be used in a
> distribution.
>
>   
Ok. I'll check that out.
>> I could see this as the default theme for Xubuntu. However, my only
>> concern is that the title bars might be a little bit too tall. Also, I
>> personally just miss *some* kind of window borders (more than 1px
>> black).
>>     
>
> I'm only referring to the GTK+ theme here, not the window manager
> theme. 
>
>   
Ah, you're right. Sorry for the confusion :)
>>>> XFWM THEME
>>>>
>>>> I'm using the "Default" in Xubuntu Jaunty and I'm totally satisfied
>>>> this. You are allowed to disagree. Please do tell any negative
>>>> feelings out loud, if you have some issues with this.
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> I really ike the default xfwm4 theme in 4.6. 
>>>
>>>   
>>>       
>> Just to make sure - are we talking about the same theme now? :)
>>     
>
> I think so ;)
>
>   
>> Anyway, I have to review my statement and say that I'm not *totally*
>> satisfied with the theme. I expressed my thoughts earlier at
>> #xubuntu-devel; the padding between the window icon and the top border
>> and the "sticky" icon is not big enough (add maybe 1px to top and
>> 2-4px to right - and maybe move the icon 2px left). You can refer to
>> http://emonk.fi/open/xubuntu/jaunty-gtk/jaunty-scrollbar.png on this
>> issue.
>>     
>
> Yeah, I can see what you mean. You may want to talk to Olivier
> (fourdan at xfce.org) about that. He created the theme and is usually very
> keen on improving them.
>
>   
I contacted him at IRC - awaiting reply.
> On my machine I completely hide most of the window title elements (I
> only have title, maximize and close there) so I don't see that icon at
> all.
>
>   - Jannis
>   

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Pasi Lallinaho
Xubuntu Marketing Lead
Web-designer, graphic artist
IRC: knome @ freenode