Jaunty Artwork

Jannis Pohlmann jannis at xfce.org
Fri Mar 6 23:18:35 UTC 2009


On Sat, 07 Mar 2009 00:37:41 +0200
Pasi Lallinaho <open at knome.fi> wrote:

> Hi Jannis,
> 
> Jannis Pohlmann wrote:
> > On Fri, 06 Mar 2009 22:48:56 +0200
> > Pasi Lallinaho <open at knome.fi> wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> Jim Campbell wrote:
> >>     
> >>> On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Pasi Lallinaho <open at knome.fi
> >>> <mailto:open at knome.fi>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>     Hello everybody,
> >>>
> >>>     just a quick message/request for comments about artwork to
> >>> Jaunty. We have been discussing the artwork for Jaunty in
> >>> #xubuntu-devel lately, as
> >>>     many of you know.
> >>>
> >>>     You can look at something ready at
> >>>     http://emonk.fi/open/xubuntu/jaunty-artwork/.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> <statements of personal impressions and preferences>
> >>> Pasi, these are beautiful.  Thank you so much for putting them
> >>> together.  My personal preference is for GDM #2, but it is not a
> >>> strong preference.  I think any one of them would be great.
> >>>
> >>> The wallpaper is super-great, too.  :)  I like how the Xubuntu
> >>> logo is so big on the page, but so nicely integrated.
> >>>
> >>> Have we settled on an icon, gtk, or xfwm theme yet?  In regards to
> >>> the GTK theme, Murrina Storm Cloud is nice looking, but it seems
> >>> we have used it for the past 3 or 4 releases.  It would be nice
> >>> for a change if we can find a suitable replacement.  As for xfwm4
> >>> themes, I like Xfce 4.6's default xfwm4 theme. 
> >>>
> >>> Again, great work!  =)
> >>>
> >>> Jim
> >>> </statements of personal impressions and preferences>
> >>>       
> >> Hi Jim and everybody,
> >>
> >> here's some comments about GTK+, icon and xfwm themes.
> >>
> >> GTK+ THEME
> >>
> >> I've also talked about the GTK+ theme selection. On
> >> http://emonk.fi/open/xubuntu/jaunty-gtk/ you can see screenshots
> >> from MurrinaStormCloud and Murrina-Tangoesque. I think *Cloud is
> >> nice looking, but is a bit too contrasted. The contrast on
> >> *Tangoesque is fine for me, but might be too uncontrasted for
> >> many. Something between these would be perfect (that's only my
> >> opinion) - either of them is fine for me otherwise.
> >>
> >> Both the themes have the problem that the scrollbar is *way* too
> >> light for the window borders. Maybe we can just adjust this color
> >> and the color of the window borders to fit the background.
> >>
> >> What comes about changing a theme, we might be a bit late on the
> >> release cycle. I also don't have any experience on GTK+ themes, so
> >> maybe in Karmic?
> >>
> >> Anyway, I suggest some action on this and totally want any feedback
> >> and all of your opinions.
> >>     
> >
> > I'm currently using Shiki-Brave which looks very nice in combination
> > with your wallpapers.
> >
> >   
> I suppose you are talking about the Shiki-colors at xfce-look.org
> (http://www.xfce-look.org/content/show.php?content=86717)? Are you
> referring to the MurrineSVN or Clearlooks version?

Clearlooks. SVN sounds unstable and probably shouldn't be used in a
distribution.

> I could see this as the default theme for Xubuntu. However, my only
> concern is that the title bars might be a little bit too tall. Also, I
> personally just miss *some* kind of window borders (more than 1px
> black).

I'm only referring to the GTK+ theme here, not the window manager
theme. 

> >> XFWM THEME
> >>
> >> I'm using the "Default" in Xubuntu Jaunty and I'm totally satisfied
> >> this. You are allowed to disagree. Please do tell any negative
> >> feelings out loud, if you have some issues with this.
> >>     
> >
> > I really ike the default xfwm4 theme in 4.6. 
> >
> >   
> Just to make sure - are we talking about the same theme now? :)

I think so ;)

> Anyway, I have to review my statement and say that I'm not *totally*
> satisfied with the theme. I expressed my thoughts earlier at
> #xubuntu-devel; the padding between the window icon and the top border
> and the "sticky" icon is not big enough (add maybe 1px to top and
> 2-4px to right - and maybe move the icon 2px left). You can refer to
> http://emonk.fi/open/xubuntu/jaunty-gtk/jaunty-scrollbar.png on this
> issue.

Yeah, I can see what you mean. You may want to talk to Olivier
(fourdan at xfce.org) about that. He created the theme and is usually very
keen on improving them.

On my machine I completely hide most of the window title elements (I
only have title, maximize and close there) so I don't see that icon at
all.

  - Jannis
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