Xubuntu team direction
J. Anthony Limon
j at flippo.net
Sat Dec 5 01:19:19 UTC 2009
Pasi Lallinaho wrote:
> Jim Campbell wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> Although I was only there for two of the days, and Cody was sick for
>> one of those two days, Cody and I we were able to meet during UDS, and
>> talk about possible plans for the 10.04 release of Xubuntu.
>> Of course we talked about some of the regular topics (and I'll have a
>> separate email about those), but I wanted to separate out a key
>> component of our plans from any discussions about regular
>> distro-related issues. Specifically, we need to talk about team
>> leadership and team member roles.
>> As you know, after several releases as the project lead for Xubuntu,
>> Cody wants to step down and assume the role of a regular contributor.
>> I spoke briefly with Daniel Holbach while at UDS, and the community
>> council would prefer that we attempt to come to a decision as a group
>> instead of just bringing the matter to the community council. It
>> makes sense, as we should be self-directed rather than dependent on an
>> outside group to come to a decision that we may not like (and that may
>> not work for us).
>> With that, it's really up to us to decide how we handle the
>> transition. Do we want to continue to have a singular project
>> leader? If so, what responsibilities would that entail, and who could
>> that be? If we choose not to go that route, or if no one wishes to
>> assume that role, could a group of people assume particular leadership
>> roles? What could this look like?
>> We need to decide this as a community, so please share your thoughts.
>> What would be best for Xubuntu? What would you like to see? What
>> concerns do you have, and how could those concerns be addressed? What
>> role(s) would you be willing and able to assume? Feel free to share
>> any other questions or thoughts.
>> Thanks very much,
> Thanks Jim for bringing this topic up. I appreciate it very much.
> With all respect to Cody, I think the singular project leader approach
> didn't work out too great on some of the situations. Too many times I
> thought there was this one guy who always could veto anything any other
> leader had done. This was discussed once thoroughly and as Cody said, he
> thought working with the rest of the team was easier and kind of more
> pleasant. And I couldn't agree more. There wasn't that much decisions to
> be done after that, so I don't know if this approach would have worked
> in the long run after all.
> Thank you again, Cody.
> So where am I coming here? Well, I think Xubuntu could benefit from
> several leadership roles. Maybe these leaders could form some kind of
> council to discuss some important things and bring a shared
> conclusion/settlement if the developer community seems to disagree a
> lot. If there still would be disagreement and the council couldn't come
> to any conclusion, then I think the leader for the particular team would
> have the final word.
> I once left the Amarok project as I wasn't listened to when I spoke on
> artwork and web – even if I was clearly the guy with most experience on
> those areas. I've had a fear that the Xubuntu team would slowly slide
> into this situation and several coordinated and equal powered leaders
> would definitely take away this fear.
> Referring to my previous email to the development mailing list  I
> will focus on other things than previously, but I'm willing to continue
> as the Xubuntu Marketing Lead if nobody has any objections about that.
> This would probably also mean that I'd be one of the several leaders,
> representing marketing and, obviously, artwork.
> Whatever the path is we choose to follow, one thing is for sure: we need
> more developers.
>  https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2009-October/007158.html
> Pasi Lallinaho
> Xubuntu Marketing Lead
> Web-designer, graphic artist
> IRC: knome @ freenode
I concur completely with Pasi,
A council of some sort is (almost) always the best way to handle
community projects. It allows more thought and process as well as serves
as a sort of fail-safe for when someone cannot perform their duties.
As a new member of the community I will continue to find my place within
it that best serves the users and further development of the system
itself. I have several ideas and criticisms I'd like to bring into
'play' concerning the Lucid development process and I think the council
idea would make it easier for smaller voices to be heard and considered.
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