Feature Freeze approaching

Cody A.W. Somerville cody-somerville at ubuntu.com
Wed Aug 26 13:27:30 UTC 2009


On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 8:42 AM, Lionel Le Folgoc <lionel at lefolgoc.net>wrote:

> By the way, Cody, did you talk with cjwatson about your "gdm-legacy"
> package? Afaik, autologin config has changed before 2.20 and 2.26, so
> the option in ubiquity should be fixed/hidden for Xubuntu.

Mario already mentioned this to me. I'll patch ubiquity to work correctly.


 > Regarding the screensaver, gnome-screensaver now depends on
> gnome-session,
> > and if this can not be fixed, it should be dropped ASAP. And I think that
> it
> > would be more profitable to try to make xscreensaver's dialog better
> (that
> > is to say fix system theming + a11y issues) than to keep
> gnome-screensaver,
> > because :
> > - the xscreensaver author, of which g-screensaver is a fork, claims that
> > g-screensaver may not be secure
> > - xscreensaver is maintained by someone who is interested in a stable,
> > secure and cross-platform screensaver, while g-screensaver is maintained
> by
> > developers who primarily address the needs of the GNOME users, sometimes
> > regardless of the needs of other users of particular software. While I
> can
> > perfectly understand that, it means future releases of gnome software are
> > always less reliable than from other authors (this reminds me of a
> blogpost
> > that i unfortunately lost, from a GNOME developer stating that GNOME
> needs
> > to learn to take the habit to say when they do changes that can have bad
> > consequences for their users, which they currently don't and which you
> learn
> > of once things are there).
> +1. Imho, we are going to discover more unexpected issues after the release
> because of the "let's-make-everything-rely-on-gnome-session" idea anyway…

As I've already mentioned, gnome-screensaver uses gnome-session to determine
when the session is idle. We can either patch gnome-screensaver to use the
old x11 watcher if the gnome-session dbus interface isn't available or we
could even patch xfce4-power-manager to take care of starting the
screensaver since it monitors idleness not using gnome-session already. If
neither options turn out to be viable for whatever reason, we'll have no
choice but to move to xscreensaver.


Cody A.W. Somerville
Software Systems Release Engineer
Foundations Team
Custom Engineering Solutions Group
Canonical OEM Services
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Email: cody.somerville at canonical.com
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