jani at ubuntu.com
Thu Jan 31 16:20:09 UTC 2008
Jérôme Guelfucci wrote:
> This has been discussed between the active members of the Xubuntu
> Team. Answers to your various questions:
> - we don't have special patches for this, patches have already been
> pushed upstream and we are just using different build options.
> - if we find the time to maintain it, why should you all care ?
I know, it's just they are extra bother when merging with debian for
little gain. However if there are resources for doing this I do not care
> - it makes the desktop lighter, and we don't miss any key feature
Please define 'we'. The changes went into gutsy precisely because there
were missing features or buginess in the existing apps.
> And finally, I don't see why this is a problem, if you really care
> about this, come and contribute more :)
Actually my lack of contributions is partly due to the fact that I
considered Xubuntu good enough and on a good course after 7.10.
Would you consider my reverting the seeds and uploading a new
xubuntu-meta a contribution?
Do you think that is how development is supposed to be done in an open
When making changes please do so openly and after consensus. If that is
reached I am not opposing it but do not do it this way. I got a lot of
negative feedback during gutsy while proposing and defending the changes
on this list, but I do not consider that I should have done it behind
everybody's backs just to avoid that.
I know that consensus is hard to reach when everyone has an oppinion,
but we can learn from the mistakes we made during the previous cycles
when endlessly debating various topics. If we keep it technical, user
oriented and leave out emotions and religious issues we can have much
more effective debates.
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