Xubuntu testing update

Jim Campbell jwcampbell at gmail.com
Tue Feb 27 23:12:21 UTC 2007


Thanks for your note.  I had read that Ubuntu was discontinuing official
support for PPC, but I'm sorry to hear that your current Xubuntu testing
releases weren't even bootable, or that you saw that many reported bugs just
weren't being fixed.

I've seen several pages that people have put up related to saving Ubuntu's
PPC support.  Hopefully the community will rally around PPC, and work to
keep PPC support alive.  I am trying to get a G3 mac by donation so that I
can test on this platform myself.  Though the future is uncertain, I figure
that every little bit that I could offer might help.

As for the lack of interest, I thought that I might not getting as many
testers because (1) more people run Ubuntu than Xubuntu, and (2) more people
have x86 processors than PPC processors.  Those two factors combined = not
as many testers.  So, I just wanted to send out a reminder to get whatever
testing I could.

Thanks for your reply,


On 2/27/07, graeme burton <graeme_c_burton at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi Jim,
> You're doing sterling work here.
> I for one was happy to test and focused my efforts on the PPC platform,
> although of I've only been using Xubuntu for a couple of months. I did this
> as it was obviously not being done by many and on Henrik Omma's specific
> request for PPC testers.
> However, with official support for PPC being withdrawn and after seeing
> evidence that many PPC specific bugs are not being fixed, it leaves me
> wondering what the future of *Ubuntu on PPC is. After spending a lot of
> time, effort and bandwidth downloading and then burning ISO images, it's
> pretty disheartening to find that it will not even boot. You don't even have
> the same virtualization options as x86, which makes life harder. I've also
> noticed that there's no longer a daily build for PPC, unlike other
> platforms. I therefore currently have little motivation to do any further
> testing until the future of the PPC distros becomes a lot clearer. It's not
> entirely clear to me whether there will even be a formal PPC release of
> Feisty.
> A possible solution would be to give control of PPC repos to the *Ubuntu
> PPC community. Unfortunately, with many of packages being non-platform
> specific, but containing specific platform bugs this will probably be
> difficult to achieve. *Ubuntu on PPC is streets ahead of other distros in my
> opinion and to me Xubuntu is the No.1 choice whether you've got a newish
> G5 or some old iMac that was found in a skip (dumpster). With Apple moving
> to x86, used PPC machines have become really cheap and there is likely to be
> increasing interest in *Ubuntu on PPC. It just seems a very short sighted
> business decision to me when there is massive interest in *Ubuntu on Intel
> Macs and most owners are unlikely to see the distinction anyway
> I've also been a bit surprised by a few negative Mac comments on the
> #xubuntu channel. This seems very odd to me in the Linux community.
> Probably not exactly what you wanted to hear, but at least you can
> hopefully understand why there's possibly a lack of interest.
> Graeme
> aka grazie
> *Jim Campbell <jwcampbell at gmail.com>* wrote:
> Hello All,
> Thanks for your recent help in testing the Xubuntu nightlies.  We have had
> a few good tests submitted, and people have been filing bug reports when
> certain portions of their tests have failed.
> With those things in mind, it would be great if we could get a few more
> tests submitted.  We especially need tests on machines with 64-bit and PPC
> processors.  If you are having trouble submitting your tests via the wiki,
> please feel free to email me directly, or look for j1mc on the #xubuntu
> channel on IRC, and I will help you.  As Herd 5 is set to be released on the
> 1st of March, we really only have up through tomorrow to get our tests
> submitted.
> Per someone's request, I'll be adding a section to the bottom of the
> /Xubuntu/Testing/Current page of the wiki where you can document the bugs
> that you have experienced.  Of course, bugs should also be checked in
> Launchpad, too.  Please look for this bug-related information to be added
> within the next day.
> If you have any other suggestions for improvements to the testing pages,
> please let me know.  Thanks again for all of your help!
> Regards,
> Jim
> P.S.  The link to the introduction page for Xubuntu testing is:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Testing  Thanks.  :)
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