List of bugs, problems and suggestions (test report)

[Jelle de Jong]

Jani Monoses wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> thanks, good feedback :)
>  
>> So now the dilemma: I got this bug: when using the alternate net-install
>> you can't not go back to switch the keyboard layout when you made the
>> wrong choose. Do i report it at console-setup, debian-installer or
>> kbd-chooser?
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kbd-chooser/+bug/32940
>>
> not sure, but if you file against the debian-installer it will probably
> be retargeted by soemone who knows the exact package.
I will file an extra report

>> When installing Xubuntu with a net-install from usb-stick the grub
>> system is not installed on the correct hard drive. When removing the
>> ubs-stick the system will not load grub correctly and the system will
>> not boot. This can be fixed by changing the grup file manually and
>> running: sudo grub-install hd0
> file a bug on grub if you think it's at fault. booting from USB stick is probably
> not as well tested as from CD.
I will file a suggestion report

>> A brown background is shown right before the blue background is loaded,
>> this is not very appealing.
> 
> I wonder if xubuntu-default-settings no longer shipd gdm-cdd.conf which overrides
> the background? Lionel?
> 
>> The totally different looks of the windows and user interface is nice
>> and all but how can a user go back to the default looks of Xubuntu 7.04.
>> I find backwards compatibility extremely important.
> 
> Not sure, maybe someone who has played with and knows the name of the themes can help.
This is really an imported thing, I believe art work changes are great
and leave the feeling of active development, But not all changes will be
received with open arms. It is extremely important to easily go back to
previous art works. This probably mean every release will needs it's own
artwork packages!

>> Mouse over behavior to show the cpu, mem, swap load of the system, in
>> the System Load Monitor panel plug-in do not work anymore. I found out
>> the mouse overs do work, however they respond far far to late.
> 
> Indeed the panel plugins are mostly buggy, and we do not have the resources to fix them all.
> Even if not a panel plugin, the gnome-system-monitor that is soon going to be included
> shows these informations.
This is not a panel bugs, but it's a bug in the new artwork. The
response time on the mouseovers are far far far to long. The style need
to be fixed.

>> Mounting a usb-stick from Thunar does not work any more. Message Failed
>> to execute child process "gnome-mount" (no such file or directory).
>> However mounting the usb-stick from the command line with the mount
>> command does work.
>>
> I've just added gnome-mount to xbuuntu-desktop, it used to be dragged in by thunar but because
> of some buildd problems that moved to Recommended: recently. thanks for catching this. In the meantime
> install gnome-mount manually.
>> Root certificate from www.cacert.org is not included in Firefox and
>> Thunderbird
>>
> file this and other bugs you think thunderbird has in LP.
I will file an suggestion report

>> Window snapping does not work
>>
>> xfce4-terminal scroll-on output, can this be disable by default, please
>>
> not sure about these, file bugs?
I will file an suggestion report

>> gxine will not start -> libmozjs.so cannot open shared object: no such
>> file or directory
>>
> ditto.
I will leave this one alone, I use totem-gxine and when the open source
gstreamers codecs are matured I will use totem-gstreamer.

>> Thunderbird, when clicking on the upper left bottom icon, a message pop
>> up that ask to download messages before going off-line, when i make the
>> NO choose the message box hangs and is not responsive for quite a while.
>>
>> Gimp start-up screen is very ugly, can we change it to something more
>> appealing?
> 
> we cannot, if it's ugly it's ubuntu-desktop maintainers/upstream thing,
> the most you can do is file a feature request in LP.
I hope Mark S. Will noticing it and change it, He makes the ubuntu
artwork decisions.

>> Why not use two backspaces instead of four?
>>
> where?
This was a typo I mean > Why not use two workspaces instead of four?

>> xubuntu start-up screen does not show any progress-bar during start-up
>> or shutdown.
>>
> not sure why.
Another artwork problem?

>> xubuntu screen saver will run by default heavy 3D screen servers, please
>> use black screen only.
>>
> I am thinking of switching to gnome-screensaver anyway.
>> remove xfburn
> 
> will probably do.
> 
>> remove Fax address book
>> remove HPLIP Fax Utility
> I was pondering this as well, but it will be a regression from feisty for those with such printers.
> OTOH they take up mamory even if you do not have printers :(

I can understand keeping HPLIB but al those other things? I really
suggest we move them. It looks very unprofessional.

>> remove menu entry for XTerm and UXTerm
>> add icon for Process Manager or remove it
> just removed it :)
Thanks

>> add icon for Autostarted Application
> something you can help with too ;)
I am not a artwork guru, only usability. I only know it should be in
Tango style.

>> rename Mozilla Thunderbird Mial/News to Thunderbird Mail Client
>> remove About Xfce from the xfce menu
>> remove Help from the xfce menu
> 
> We have to decide what to do about Help reader icon. Lionel, what do you think of adding it to the panel?
> Not sure about removing from the panel. Jelle what is wrong with them?
The information provided for new users is fine, however for a working
environment they do not provide added value to the system. I suggest
adding a default start page for firefox specially made for xubuntu. This
page will give information about xfce, help, games etcetera.

>> Is there no new version of GQview?! Is there no further development?
>> Maybe change to an active development program.
> 
> I think it is stale, but seems to do the job no?

Yes it stable, but I can think of some obvious enhancements to make the
application fit better into the desktop environment. For example the out
of place file browse system with the blue folders in the right column.

> 
>> No new version of Thunar that supports changing the "Date Modified" colum?
> 
> not sure what you're asking, if thunar did not have this than it's an upstream thing
> and you can find out the answer just as well.
I saw some images of the some property window of thunar that allowed
user to select the date format for the coloms, this way I could change
the for me annoying behaviour of showing dates like "Today" instead of
the full date format.

>> Desktop preferences -> behaviour -> there are no checked check boxes in
>> for the "show icons for" however they are being displayed at the
>> desktop. This is not expected behaviour.
No comments on this one?

>> Thunderbird new junk icon appears to soon in compared with the other icons.
I will file a bug report for this one.

>> Why display the contains of a window when resizing or moving? Can we
>> disable this for the default settings?
> 
> Why, does it slow things down? We generally do not touch xfwm4 settings. We change the
> panel layout and artwork but leave the window manager alone.
Yes showing the contains of windows while moving and resizing, really
slows down the system. It is a easy way of speeding up the default
settings. And I personally thing it looks better.

>> It will be great to have one net-install cd that always points to the
>> most recent stable release of all ubuntu distributions.
> 
> not sure what you mean, but does not sound xubuntu specific :)
Yes this is not xubuntu specific, It is an enhancement for the total
ubuntu family and will save a lot of downloads time. Because an home
administrator could use one CD to install clean releases of every new
ubuntu release without downloading and burning a new CD every 6 month's.

> thanks again for testing
> 
> Jani

Some bug/suggestion reports to fill now :-D

Jelle