no more icons

Ronnie Whisler mrwislr at
Wed Oct 25 22:12:47 UTC 2006

sorry for ranting but my point was made It is not my fault if it stings

On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 00:00:40 +0200
Luzius Thoeny <lucius.antonius at> wrote:

> Ronnie Whisler wrote:
> > Did any of these "developers"  try using the trashcan panel   when
> > the panel has autohide enabled?  My guess is they did not.... why?
> > Because it doesnt' work.... Rendering the trashcan unusable.....
> > Also why is this clean desktop sooooo important.... there are many
> > many many individuals out there using linux/xubuntu because a
> > friend set it up for them on their old computers..... THESE PEOPLE
> > NEED THOSE ICONS..... but as always the linux developers don't
> > think about that.... then they write articles yelling about how
> > linux isn't gaining wider acceptance.....  AND I simply love how
> > this decision was made immediately before the last release.....
> > when everything is frozen... if this clean desktop was so important
> > why didn't you remove them a lot earlier......  friggin sneaky and
> > actually really really dumb..... your trashcan panel doesn't work
> > in most situations guys soooo thanks for disabling a cool new
> > feature for the rest of us... GIVE US A CHOICE  OR AT LEAST SOME
> > FRIGGIN TIME TO DISCUSS IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> >
> >   
> this email is a good example of how not to behave on a mailing-list:
> 1. please follow the rules of the mailing list. formulating complete 
> sentences is a good start. using all upper-case letters and excessive 
> punctuation is not.
> 2. don't be rude and offend people; especially not if they are the
> ones doing all the hard work behind the scenes.
> 3. restrain from general "truths" (like "as always the linux
> developers think...") without backing it up with some evidence or
> examples.
> 4, general ranting and complaining is not appreciated. please offer 
> constructive comments and suggest how things should be done better in 
> the future.
> 5. doubting the developer status of others (as implied by putting it
> in quotes) is not something you should do if you don't have a clue
> what's going on and who's actually doing the work.
> 6. if you have found a bug, which i think you do when you're saying 
> "trashcan panel doesn't work in most situations", please file a bug
> in launchpad.
> 7. do not write repeatedly to the ML about the same topic. make your 
> point once, and make it clear. you will have more chances of people 
> taking you seriously that way.
> about icons on the desktop:
> - some people like it, some people don't; since it's not configurable 
> upstream, we have to go with one of the two.
> - people desperate for these icons can install from SVN.
> - no functionality is lost; everything can still be achieved with a
> few clicks from the "Applications" menu. so what's the big deal?
> ~luzi

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