[Ubuntu-ZW] Timezone issues, potentially quite bad

O. Sinclair o.sinclair at gmail.com
Wed Mar 13 11:11:14 UTC 2013


I very much doubt that KDE would use anything outside the linux system 
to set the timezone.


On 13/03/2013 11:52, Dr Kuda Dube Rukanda wrote:
> There is a possibility that Africa/Harare has been deleted in certain
> databases around the world.
>
> I remember while attending a conference in Cyprus I was detained at the
> airport because I held Zimbabwe passport when such a country did not
> exist in their databases. The people knew that the country existed BUT
> the computer systems told them the country did not exist!
>
> Whatever servers or spam filters are being used by the KDE group, it may
> be suffering from a similar problem.
>
> Kuda
>
>
> On 13 March 2013 21:39, Kalpesh Thaker <luminary06 at gmail.com
> <mailto:luminary06 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Ahh, you are correct!
>
>     "From: kt <kt at thejoker>
>     To: kalpesh at webdevworld.com <mailto:kalpesh at webdevworld.com>
>     Subject: test
>     Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 10:31:18 +0204
>     Message-ID: <2291584.5WqPz9Rkts at thejoker>
>     X-KMail-Identity: 101880761
>     User-Agent: KMail/4.8.5 (Linux/3.2.0-31-generic-pae; KDE/4.8.5;
>     i686; ; )
>     MIME-Version: 1.0
>     Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit
>     Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" "
>
>     What really weird, is that im subscribed a few lists, like debian
>     security and a few others. havent had any bounces yet.
>
>     using thunderbird, i get:
>
>     "From - Wed Mar 13 10:37:59 2013
>
>     X-Mozilla-Status: 0001
>     X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000
>     X-Mozilla-Keys:
>     Message-ID: <51403AE7.3020205 at webdevworld.com  <mailto:51403AE7.3020205 at webdevworld.com>>
>     Disposition-Notification-To: kalpesh thaker <kalpesh at webdevworld.com  <mailto:kalpesh at webdevworld.com>>
>     Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 10:37:59 +0200
>     From: kalpesh thaker <kalpesh at webdevworld.com  <mailto:kalpesh at webdevworld.com>>
>     User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130221 Thunderbird/17.0.3
>     MIME-Version: 1.0
>     To:kalpesh at hosting.co.zw  <mailto:kalpesh at hosting.co.zw>
>     Subject: test
>     Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>     Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit"
>
>     im having a look to see if its possible to change that time zone
>     manually in kmail.
>
>     kalpesh
>
>
>     On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 9:44 AM, O. Sinclair <o.sinclair at gmail.com
>     <mailto:o.sinclair at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         Hi Kalpesh,
>
>         no this is not a host issue, I use different sending hosts
>         depending on account and also then it would not change if I
>         changed timezone.
>
>         It is KMail (and other clients) that sets a Date field in the
>         headers and that defaults to UTC +0200 or whatever offset to UTC
>         you happen to be in. UTC +0204 is in other clearly wrong.
>
>         Just to test I swapped again and the problem returned.
>
>         If you are using KMail, open a sent mail, do View All Headers
>         and look for the Date field and see what value you have, then we
>         can compare.
>
>         Best,
>         Orion
>
>
>         On 13/03/2013 08:55, Kalpesh Thaker wrote:
>
>             Hi Orion,
>
>             Im actually using kmail myself. im subscribed to quite a few
>             forums
>             online and havent had any issues when posting or replying to
>             threads.
>             confirm that in the headers, its your host that has the
>             incorrect time,
>             and not one of the relays from your ISP?
>
>             Im noticing you're seeing UTC. your universal time should
>             actually be 2
>             hours behind.. so the correct date on your computer should be:
>
>             Current default time zone: 'Africa/Harare'
>             Local time is now:      Wed Mar 13 08:53:47 CAT 2013.
>             Universal Time is now:  Wed Mar 13 06:53:47 UTC 2013.
>
>             you can double check your time zone on your OS from the
>             command line:
>
>             "sudo date"
>
>             then change/confirm your tz using:
>
>             "sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata"
>
>             once thats done, sync your clock:
>
>             "sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org <http://pool.ntp.org>
>             <http://pool.ntp.org>" --> check that ntpdate
>
>             is installed first.
>
>             cheers,
>
>             kalpesh
>
>
>
>             On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 8:48 AM, O. Sinclair
>             <o.sinclair at gmail.com <mailto:o.sinclair at gmail.com>
>             <mailto:o.sinclair at gmail.com <mailto:o.sinclair at gmail.com>>>
>             wrote:
>
>                  Hi all,
>
>                  am using Kubuntu 12.10 with all updates and such.
>
>                  A while ago I posted some issues on the kde-devel list
>             that was
>                  initially rejected as spam. I had some discussions with
>             the list
>                  administrator Ben Cooksley.
>
>                  He informed me that a major problem was that my sending
>             headers were
>                  set to date as UTC +0204. As we in Harare are UTC +0200
>             this meant
>                  all kinds of spamassasin and friends believed my mails
>             to be some
>                  kind of bogey.
>
>                  You can see this in a sent mail by viewing All Headers
>             and look for
>                  Date sent or similar.
>
>                  My question to fellow ubuntu-users with computers set
>             to timezone
>                  Africa/Harare is of course:
>                  Am I the only one having this issue?
>                  Is it possibly a KMail issue or are
>             Thunderbird/Evolution users
>                  seeing it as well?
>
>                  If it is "just me" I will have to figure out what is
>             wrong with my
>                  setup (changing to Lusaka/Zambia fixed it btw).
>                  If it is KMail then I have to bug the devs
>                  If it is Ubuntu time to file a bug there
>
>                  Kind regards
>                  Sinclair
>





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