[Ubuntu-ZW] Timezone issues, potentially quite bad
O. Sinclair
o.sinclair at gmail.com
Wed Mar 13 11:11:14 UTC 2013
I very much doubt that KDE would use anything outside the linux system
to set the timezone.
On 13/03/2013 11:52, Dr Kuda Dube Rukanda wrote:
> There is a possibility that Africa/Harare has been deleted in certain
> databases around the world.
>
> I remember while attending a conference in Cyprus I was detained at the
> airport because I held Zimbabwe passport when such a country did not
> exist in their databases. The people knew that the country existed BUT
> the computer systems told them the country did not exist!
>
> Whatever servers or spam filters are being used by the KDE group, it may
> be suffering from a similar problem.
>
> Kuda
>
>
> On 13 March 2013 21:39, Kalpesh Thaker <luminary06 at gmail.com
> <mailto:luminary06 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Ahh, you are correct!
>
> "From: kt <kt at thejoker>
> To: kalpesh at webdevworld.com <mailto:kalpesh at webdevworld.com>
> Subject: test
> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 10:31:18 +0204
> Message-ID: <2291584.5WqPz9Rkts at thejoker>
> X-KMail-Identity: 101880761
> User-Agent: KMail/4.8.5 (Linux/3.2.0-31-generic-pae; KDE/4.8.5;
> i686; ; )
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" "
>
> What really weird, is that im subscribed a few lists, like debian
> security and a few others. havent had any bounces yet.
>
> using thunderbird, i get:
>
> "From - Wed Mar 13 10:37:59 2013
>
> X-Mozilla-Status: 0001
> X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000
> X-Mozilla-Keys:
> Message-ID: <51403AE7.3020205 at webdevworld.com <mailto:51403AE7.3020205 at webdevworld.com>>
> Disposition-Notification-To: kalpesh thaker <kalpesh at webdevworld.com <mailto:kalpesh at webdevworld.com>>
> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 10:37:59 +0200
> From: kalpesh thaker <kalpesh at webdevworld.com <mailto:kalpesh at webdevworld.com>>
> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130221 Thunderbird/17.0.3
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> To:kalpesh at hosting.co.zw <mailto:kalpesh at hosting.co.zw>
> Subject: test
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit"
>
> im having a look to see if its possible to change that time zone
> manually in kmail.
>
> kalpesh
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 9:44 AM, O. Sinclair <o.sinclair at gmail.com
> <mailto:o.sinclair at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi Kalpesh,
>
> no this is not a host issue, I use different sending hosts
> depending on account and also then it would not change if I
> changed timezone.
>
> It is KMail (and other clients) that sets a Date field in the
> headers and that defaults to UTC +0200 or whatever offset to UTC
> you happen to be in. UTC +0204 is in other clearly wrong.
>
> Just to test I swapped again and the problem returned.
>
> If you are using KMail, open a sent mail, do View All Headers
> and look for the Date field and see what value you have, then we
> can compare.
>
> Best,
> Orion
>
>
> On 13/03/2013 08:55, Kalpesh Thaker wrote:
>
> Hi Orion,
>
> Im actually using kmail myself. im subscribed to quite a few
> forums
> online and havent had any issues when posting or replying to
> threads.
> confirm that in the headers, its your host that has the
> incorrect time,
> and not one of the relays from your ISP?
>
> Im noticing you're seeing UTC. your universal time should
> actually be 2
> hours behind.. so the correct date on your computer should be:
>
> Current default time zone: 'Africa/Harare'
> Local time is now: Wed Mar 13 08:53:47 CAT 2013.
> Universal Time is now: Wed Mar 13 06:53:47 UTC 2013.
>
> you can double check your time zone on your OS from the
> command line:
>
> "sudo date"
>
> then change/confirm your tz using:
>
> "sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata"
>
> once thats done, sync your clock:
>
> "sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org <http://pool.ntp.org>
> <http://pool.ntp.org>" --> check that ntpdate
>
> is installed first.
>
> cheers,
>
> kalpesh
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 8:48 AM, O. Sinclair
> <o.sinclair at gmail.com <mailto:o.sinclair at gmail.com>
> <mailto:o.sinclair at gmail.com <mailto:o.sinclair at gmail.com>>>
> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> am using Kubuntu 12.10 with all updates and such.
>
> A while ago I posted some issues on the kde-devel list
> that was
> initially rejected as spam. I had some discussions with
> the list
> administrator Ben Cooksley.
>
> He informed me that a major problem was that my sending
> headers were
> set to date as UTC +0204. As we in Harare are UTC +0200
> this meant
> all kinds of spamassasin and friends believed my mails
> to be some
> kind of bogey.
>
> You can see this in a sent mail by viewing All Headers
> and look for
> Date sent or similar.
>
> My question to fellow ubuntu-users with computers set
> to timezone
> Africa/Harare is of course:
> Am I the only one having this issue?
> Is it possibly a KMail issue or are
> Thunderbird/Evolution users
> seeing it as well?
>
> If it is "just me" I will have to figure out what is
> wrong with my
> setup (changing to Lusaka/Zambia fixed it btw).
> If it is KMail then I have to bug the devs
> If it is Ubuntu time to file a bug there
>
> Kind regards
> Sinclair
>
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