[Ubuntu-ZW] Timezone issues, potentially quite bad

Dr Kuda Dube Rukanda kudakwashe.dube at rukanda.com
Wed Mar 13 09:52:10 UTC 2013


There is a possibility that Africa/Harare has been deleted in certain
databases around the world.

I remember while attending a conference in Cyprus I was detained at the
airport because I held Zimbabwe passport when such a country did not exist
in their databases. The people knew that the country existed BUT the
computer systems told them the country did not exist!

Whatever servers or spam filters are being used by the KDE group, it may be
suffering from a similar problem.

Kuda


On 13 March 2013 21:39, Kalpesh Thaker <luminary06 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ahh, you are correct!
>
> "From: kt <kt at thejoker>
> To: kalpesh at webdevworld.com
> Subject: test
> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 10:31:18 +0204
> Message-ID: <2291584.5WqPz9Rkts at thejoker>
> X-KMail-Identity: 101880761
> User-Agent: KMail/4.8.5 (Linux/3.2.0-31-generic-pae; KDE/4.8.5; i686; ; )
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" "
>
> What really weird, is that im subscribed a few lists, like debian security
> and a few others. havent had any bounces yet.
>
> using thunderbird, i get:
>
> "From - Wed Mar 13 10:37:59 2013
>
> X-Mozilla-Status: 0001
> X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000
> X-Mozilla-Keys:
> Message-ID: <51403AE7.3020205 at webdevworld.com>
> Disposition-Notification-To: kalpesh thaker <kalpesh at webdevworld.com>
> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 10:37:59 +0200
> From: kalpesh thaker <kalpesh at webdevworld.com>
> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130221 Thunderbird/17.0.3
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> To: kalpesh at hosting.co.zw
> Subject: test
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit"
>
> im having a look to see if its possible to change that time zone manually
> in kmail.
>
> kalpesh
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 9:44 AM, O. Sinclair <o.sinclair at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Kalpesh,
>>
>> no this is not a host issue, I use different sending hosts depending on
>> account and also then it would not change if I changed timezone.
>>
>> It is KMail (and other clients) that sets a Date field in the headers and
>> that defaults to UTC +0200 or whatever offset to UTC you happen to be in.
>> UTC +0204 is in other clearly wrong.
>>
>> Just to test I swapped again and the problem returned.
>>
>> If you are using KMail, open a sent mail, do View All Headers and look
>> for the Date field and see what value you have, then we can compare.
>>
>> Best,
>> Orion
>>
>>
>> On 13/03/2013 08:55, Kalpesh Thaker wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Orion,
>>>
>>> Im actually using kmail myself. im subscribed to quite a few forums
>>> online and havent had any issues when posting or replying to threads.
>>> confirm that in the headers, its your host that has the incorrect time,
>>> and not one of the relays from your ISP?
>>>
>>> Im noticing you're seeing UTC. your universal time should actually be 2
>>> hours behind.. so the correct date on your computer should be:
>>>
>>> Current default time zone: 'Africa/Harare'
>>> Local time is now:      Wed Mar 13 08:53:47 CAT 2013.
>>> Universal Time is now:  Wed Mar 13 06:53:47 UTC 2013.
>>>
>>> you can double check your time zone on your OS from the command line:
>>>
>>> "sudo date"
>>>
>>> then change/confirm your tz using:
>>>
>>> "sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata"
>>>
>>> once thats done, sync your clock:
>>>
>>> "sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org <http://pool.ntp.org>" --> check that ntpdate
>>>
>>> is installed first.
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>>
>>> kalpesh
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 8:48 AM, O. Sinclair <o.sinclair at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:o.sinclair at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Hi all,
>>>
>>>     am using Kubuntu 12.10 with all updates and such.
>>>
>>>     A while ago I posted some issues on the kde-devel list that was
>>>     initially rejected as spam. I had some discussions with the list
>>>     administrator Ben Cooksley.
>>>
>>>     He informed me that a major problem was that my sending headers were
>>>     set to date as UTC +0204. As we in Harare are UTC +0200 this meant
>>>     all kinds of spamassasin and friends believed my mails to be some
>>>     kind of bogey.
>>>
>>>     You can see this in a sent mail by viewing All Headers and look for
>>>     Date sent or similar.
>>>
>>>     My question to fellow ubuntu-users with computers set to timezone
>>>     Africa/Harare is of course:
>>>     Am I the only one having this issue?
>>>     Is it possibly a KMail issue or are Thunderbird/Evolution users
>>>     seeing it as well?
>>>
>>>     If it is "just me" I will have to figure out what is wrong with my
>>>     setup (changing to Lusaka/Zambia fixed it btw).
>>>     If it is KMail then I have to bug the devs
>>>     If it is Ubuntu time to file a bug there
>>>
>>>     Kind regards
>>>     Sinclair
>>>
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