[ubuntu-za] 18.04 releases

[Robin Bownes]

Hi All,

Very interesting. To be honest, I stopped using Ubuntu shortly after the 
release of 16.04, which gave me so much trouble that it just became more 
of a hindrance than a help. At that point, I swapped over to Mint, which 
while not perfect has presented me with far fewer problems.

However, the other day, I downloaded 18.04 and installed it in a virtual 
machine with 4GB RAM, and about 30GB disk space. While I must admit to 
not having done any extensive testing, I must also say that it seemed to 
work very well "out of the box", and definitely ran faster than I 
remember 16.04 doing.

I've been toying with the idea of reverting to Ubuntu 18.04 as my 
primary OS. I've been meaning to enquire, on this list, of people's 
comparative experience between their previous version of Ubuntu and 
18.04. However, given this conversation, I may wait a while, in spite of 
my positive virtual box experience. That said, I'd really like to hear 
more - both positive and negative regarding 18.04.

Thanks.

Best of luck Bill. If you're really frustrated, give Linux Mint a try - 
with either Cinnamon or Mate GUI - both work well.

Robin


On 2018/10/16 10:53, Bill Cairns wrote:
>
> Rant: I have been a faithful Linux user and advocate for more nearly 
> 15 years now. It was way back in 2004 that I first committed my major 
> machine to running Linux. Never in this time have I experienced the 
> problems that I have had with the various versions of Ubuntu 18.04. 
> Nearly every time in the past Ubuntu has just worked after 
> installation. This time I have had to spend days getting Ubuntu to 
> work to my satisfaction – and even after a couple of months some stuff 
> is still not right. (Ok so the conversion away from Unity is part of 
> the problem.)
>
> Xubuntu, which I have run on my (12 year old) laptop for the past 6 
> years or so, was so slow under 18.04 that it was unworkable. OK , 
> after a couple of hours, I managed to improve that by making a minor 
> fix. (If I could find a minor fix by searching the net, why can't the 
> minor fix be incorporated in the standard version?) It is still slow 
> though. So I decided to try Puppy Linux. That is a mess: the ubuntu 
> startup disk creator does not work with Puppy. Use Unetbootin they 
> said. So I install Unetbootin but it does not work on 18.04. OK – I 
> eventually use mkusb (finding out about that was not trivial either). 
> Puppy eventually works but will not save the configuration from 
> session to session. I waste some more time trying to find out what is 
> wrong. Eventually I say what the hell and decide to give Lubuntu a 
> try. (I don't like the fact that Puppy only runs in administrator 
> mode; that it is still stuck with 14.04 repositories ...) So I 
> download Lubuntu. The first thing I find is that Lubuntu does not give 
> the option to run live from a USB so I have to install it. It takes 
> longer to install than Ubuntu did and gives me far fewer options about 
> how and what I want to install. Then the wireless connection does not 
> work. Just flat does not work. I do some more research – Google likes 
> me, I have spent more time with Google than my wife lately. There are 
> a stack of suggested fixes. I am not sure that I have the interest to 
> pursue them any more. At least Xubuntu worked even if it was very slowly.
>
> I am really beginning to doubt my commitment to Ubuntu and Linux. 
> Torvaldes recently said that the big problem with desktop Linux is 
> that people don't want to download and install operating systems 
> themselves. I would agree but would add that if I do have to download 
> an operating system, I would expect it to work. I think that all the 
> 18.04 releases that I have seen have clumsy and incomplete and just 
> not up to the standard that I have come to expect from past versions 
> of Ubuntu. I am afraid that I have become very pessimistic about the 
> future of desktop Linux.
>
>
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