[ubuntu-za] ubuntu-za Digest, Vol 86, Issue 4

Chris Els chrisels1951 at gmail.com
Sun Nov 4 03:15:11 UTC 2012


Raoul,

>Do just be aware that you can't just upgrade straight from 10.10 to
>another version. You have to upgrade from version to version, so
>something like this:

>10.10 -> 11.04 -> 11.10 -> 12.04 -> 12.10

Can't I backup my data, reformat and do an install of 12.04?
I d not have the intermediate versions.

Thanks for any advice,
Chris

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> Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2012 08:34:53 +0200
> From: Raoul Snyman <raoul.snyman at saturnlaboratories.co.za>
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> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-za] Ubuntu 12.10
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> Hi Chris,
>
> On 02/11/2012 18:16, Chris Els wrote:
>> I need to upgrade from 10.10 to the latest version of Ubuntu.
>> I would prefer to get the latest LTS version of Ubuntu, not sure if
>> that is 12.10.
>
> Do just be aware that you can't just upgrade straight from 10.10 to
> another version. You have to upgrade from version to version, so
> something like this:
>
> 10.10 -> 11.04 -> 11.10 -> 12.04 -> 12.10
>
> With the LTS releases you can go straight from LTS to LTS, but
> unfortunately 10.10 is not an LTS.
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 11:38:10 +0200
> From: Leon Gert Marincowitz <lmarincowitz at gmail.com>
> To: ubuntu-za at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-za] 12.10 gripes
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> Hi Wikus
>
> It is a little buggy, but that comes from not being an LTS. As I understand
> Quantal is a different or updated kernal than used in 12.04. The slowness
> occurs on my brand new 4 month old laptop. But this is in relation to
> Precise, it still beats Windows hands down. That said should you get the
> graphics working which would usually just be an update you would have no
> problems. Precise also had that irritating we found an error thing, but
> that can be disabled. The benefits of Quantal in my view outweigh the
> negatives i.e. web apps, better top right menu, preview option in dash etc.
>
> Best
> Leon
>
> On 3 November 2012 00:16, <ubuntu-za-request at lists.ubuntu.com> wrote:
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>>    3. Re:  12.10 gripes (Frans de waal)
>>    4. Re:  12.10 gripes (Wikus)
>>    5. Re:  12.10 gripes (Robert Holm)
>>    6. Re:  12.10 gripes (Robin Bownes)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2012 16:06:56 +0200
>> From: Wikus <mazal.wikus at gmail.com>
>> To: Ubuntu-za <ubuntu-za at lists.ubuntu.com>
>> Subject: [ubuntu-za] 12.10 gripes
>> Message-ID: <5093D380.8060202 at cheetah-microsystems.com>
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>> Afternoon all ,
>>
>> I have installed 12.10 yesterday. (was on 12.04LTS).
>> And I am not very impressed. Much slower than 12.04 and buggy and the
>> Nvidia drivers doesn't
>> work , which have always worked before on every version I used since 8
>> on a number of different pc's.
>>
>> My question is , is my pc just getting too long in the tooth for Ubuntu
>> ? Are they also aiming more at
>> the high end pc's now ? Or is 12.10 just slow and buggy in general ? Are
>> there guys with new pc's that have
>> no issues ? Or are you also having issues ?
>> My Specs:
>> Core2duo 2.8ghz , 4gig ram , Geforce 9800GT 510mb
>>
>> My biggest gripes is the slowness , Nvidia not working , frequent the
>> "System have experienced an error"
>> messages , and files and folders jumping around while viewing them in
>> nautilus.
>> Are these a "the pc is too old for the os" thing , or is this version of
>> Ubuntu just not good ? 12.04 ran without issues.
>>
>> - Wikus
>>
>> --
>>       _
>>      | |
>>      | |
>>   ---   ---
>> |J E S U S|
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 18:16:44 +0200
>> From: Chris Els <chrisels1951 at gmail.com>
>> To: ubuntu-za at lists.ubuntu.com
>> Subject: [ubuntu-za] Ubuntu 12.10
>> Message-ID:
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>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> I need to upgrade from 10.10 to the latest version of Ubuntu.
>> I would prefer to get the latest LTS version of Ubuntu, not sure if
>> that is 12.10.
>>
>> Is there somebody willing to mail me a cd with the latest LTS Ubuntu on
>> it?
>> I will of course pay postage and the cost of the cd and handling fees, if
>> any.
>>
>> My address is:
>> FC Els
>> PO Box 211,
>> Orania
>> 8752
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 18:28:40 +0200
>> From: Frans de waal <meesterarend at gmail.com>
>> To: Ubuntu South African Local Community <ubuntu-za at lists.ubuntu.com>
>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-za] 12.10 gripes
>> Message-ID:
>>         <
>> CAALHhb_HUpL7bGmiiuvnsUcOF5_y+X_27XuSV66NkaJuFXaQ4A at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> I see no reason why it should not work...except the fact that it's not a
>> LTS.
>>
>> Have You updated the new install yet?
>> The kind of errors you get might get fixed by month end, if not sooner.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2 November 2012 16:06, Wikus <mazal.wikus at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Afternoon all ,
>> >
>> > I have installed 12.10 yesterday. (was on 12.04LTS).
>> > And I am not very impressed. Much slower than 12.04 and buggy and the
>> > Nvidia drivers doesn't
>> > work , which have always worked before on every version I used since 8
>> > on
>> > a number of different pc's.
>> >
>> > My question is , is my pc just getting too long in the tooth for Ubuntu
>> > ?
>> > Are they also aiming more at
>> > the high end pc's now ? Or is 12.10 just slow and buggy in general ?
>> > Are
>> > there guys with new pc's that have
>> > no issues ? Or are you also having issues ?
>> > My Specs:
>> > Core2duo 2.8ghz , 4gig ram , Geforce 9800GT 510mb
>> >
>> > My biggest gripes is the slowness , Nvidia not working , frequent the
>> > "System have experienced an error"
>> > messages , and files and folders jumping around while viewing them in
>> > nautilus.
>> > Are these a "the pc is too old for the os" thing , or is this version
>> > of
>> > Ubuntu just not good ? 12.04 ran without issues.
>> >
>> > - Wikus
>> >
>> > --
>> >      _
>> >     | |
>> >     | |
>> >  ---   ---
>> > |J E S U S|
>> >  ---   ---
>> >     | |
>> >     | |
>> >     | |
>> >     | |   My King
>> >     ---
>> >
>> >
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>> Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2012 18:34:58 +0200
>> From: Wikus <mazal.wikus at gmail.com>
>> To: ubuntu-za at lists.ubuntu.com
>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-za] 12.10 gripes
>> Message-ID: <5093F632.3060902 at cheetah-microsystems.com>
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>> Yep update is first thing I always do
>>
>>       _
>>      | |
>>      | |
>>   ---   ---
>> |J E S U S|
>>   ---   ---
>>      | |
>>      | |
>>      | |
>>      | |   My King
>>      ---
>>
>> On 02/11/2012 18:28, Frans de waal wrote:
>> > I see no reason why it should not work...except the fact that it's not
>> > a LTS.
>> >
>> > Have You updated the new install yet?
>> > The kind of errors you get might get fixed by month end, if not sooner.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 2 November 2012 16:06, Wikus <mazal.wikus at gmail.com
>> > <mailto:mazal.wikus at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >     Afternoon all ,
>> >
>> >     I have installed 12.10 yesterday. (was on 12.04LTS).
>> >     And I am not very impressed. Much slower than 12.04 and buggy and
>> >     the Nvidia drivers doesn't
>> >     work , which have always worked before on every version I used
>> >     since 8 on a number of different pc's.
>> >
>> >     My question is , is my pc just getting too long in the tooth for
>> >     Ubuntu ? Are they also aiming more at
>> >     the high end pc's now ? Or is 12.10 just slow and buggy in general
>> >     ? Are there guys with new pc's that have
>> >     no issues ? Or are you also having issues ?
>> >     My Specs:
>> >     Core2duo 2.8ghz , 4gig ram , Geforce 9800GT 510mb
>> >
>> >     My biggest gripes is the slowness , Nvidia not working , frequent
>> >     the "System have experienced an error"
>> >     messages , and files and folders jumping around while viewing them
>> >     in nautilus.
>> >     Are these a "the pc is too old for the os" thing , or is this
>> >     version of Ubuntu just not good ? 12.04 ran without issues.
>> >
>> >     - Wikus
>> >
>> >     --
>> >          _
>> >         | |
>> >         | |
>> >      ---   ---
>> >     |J E S U S|
>> >      ---   ---
>> >         | |
>> >         | |
>> >         | |
>> >         | |   My King
>> >         ---
>> >
>> >
>> >     --
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>> >     https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-za
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>> >
>> >
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2012 20:09:45 +0200
>> From: Robert Holm <robhholm at lantic.net>
>> To: ubuntu-za at lists.ubuntu.com
>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-za] 12.10 gripes
>> Message-ID: <50940C69.9070006 at lantic.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>> On 02/11/2012 18:34, Wikus wrote:
>> > Yep update is first thing I always do
>> >
>> >      _
>> >     | |
>> >     | |
>> >  ---   ---
>> > |J E S U S|
>> >  ---   ---
>> >     | |
>> >     | |
>> >     | |
>> >     | |   My King
>> >     ---
>> >
>> > On 02/11/2012 18:28, Frans de waal wrote:
>> >> I see no reason why it should not work...except the fact that it's
>> >> not a LTS.
>> >>
>> >> Have You updated the new install yet?
>> >> The kind of errors you get might get fixed by month end, if not
>> >> sooner.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 2 November 2012 16:06, Wikus <mazal.wikus at gmail.com
>> >> <mailto:mazal.wikus at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>     Afternoon all ,
>> >>
>> >>     I have installed 12.10 yesterday. (was on 12.04LTS).
>> >>     And I am not very impressed. Much slower than 12.04 and buggy and
>> >>     the Nvidia drivers doesn't
>> >>     work , which have always worked before on every version I used
>> >>     since 8 on a number of different pc's.
>> >>
>> >>     My question is , is my pc just getting too long in the tooth for
>> >>     Ubuntu ? Are they also aiming more at
>> >>     the high end pc's now ? Or is 12.10 just slow and buggy in general
>> >>     ? Are there guys with new pc's that have
>> >>     no issues ? Or are you also having issues ?
>> >>     My Specs:
>> >>     Core2duo 2.8ghz , 4gig ram , Geforce 9800GT 510mb
>> >>
>> >>     My biggest gripes is the slowness , Nvidia not working , frequent
>> >>     the "System have experienced an error"
>> >>     messages , and files and folders jumping around while viewing them
>> >>     in nautilus.
>> >>     Are these a "the pc is too old for the os" thing , or is this
>> >>     version of Ubuntu just not good ? 12.04 ran without issues.
>> >>
>> >>     - Wikus
>> My machine is pretty much up to date but I also found 12.10 to be
>> significantly sluggish compared to 12.04 and I have happily reverted to
>> 12.04.
>>
>> Robert
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2012 00:04:30 +0200
>> From: Robin Bownes <robin at bownes.co.za>
>> To: ubuntu-za at lists.ubuntu.com
>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-za] 12.10 gripes
>> Message-ID: <5094436E.4080009 at bownes.co.za>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>>
>> On 11/02/2012 04:06 PM, Wikus wrote:
>> > Afternoon all ,
>> >
>> > I have installed 12.10 yesterday. (was on 12.04LTS).
>> > And I am not very impressed. Much slower than 12.04 and buggy and the
>> > Nvidia drivers doesn't
>> > work , which have always worked before on every version I used since 8
>> > on a number of different pc's.
>> >
>> > My question is , is my pc just getting too long in the tooth for
>> > Ubuntu ? Are they also aiming more at
>> > the high end pc's now ? Or is 12.10 just slow and buggy in general ?
>> > Are there guys with new pc's that have
>> > no issues ? Or are you also having issues ?
>> > My Specs:
>> > Core2duo 2.8ghz , 4gig ram , Geforce 9800GT 510mb
>> >
>> > My biggest gripes is the slowness , Nvidia not working , frequent the
>> > "System have experienced an error"
>> > messages , and files and folders jumping around while viewing them in
>> > nautilus.
>> > Are these a "the pc is too old for the os" thing , or is this version
>> > of Ubuntu just not good ? 12.04 ran without issues.
>> >
>> > - Wikus
>> >
>> I have just loaded 12.10 (64 bit) on a machine with a dual-core 2.8 with
>> only 2GB of memory, and must say that it runs beautifully - quick, clean
>> and smooth.
>>
>> I also notice, that the issues with Gimp, that have had me using Mate
>> (GUI) in place of Unity on my 12.04 seem to have been sorted out, so I'm
>> about to do a fresh install of 12.10 on my own machine too.
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2012 00:12:25 +0200
>> From: "=?utf-8?B?dGltQGN5YmVyc21hcnQuY28uemE=?="
>>         <tim at cybersmart.co.za>
>> To: "=?utf-8?B?VWJ1bnR1IFNvdXRoIEFmcmljYW4gTG9jYWwgQ29tbXVuaXR5?="
>>         <ubuntu-za at lists.ubuntu.com>
>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-za] Ubuntu 12.10
>> Message-ID: <20121102221226.6F8201334983 at smtpauth2.cybersmart.co.za>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> Chris, ill send you a CD next week (12.04, latest LTS version)
>> Cheers
>> Tim
>>
>> Sent from my HTC
>>
>> ----- Reply message -----
>> From: "Chris Els" <chrisels1951 at gmail.com>
>> To: <ubuntu-za at lists.ubuntu.com>
>> Subject: [ubuntu-za] Ubuntu 12.10
>> Date: Fri, Nov 2, 2012 18:16
>>
>>
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> I need to upgrade from 10.10 to the latest version of Ubuntu.
>> I would prefer to get the latest LTS version of Ubuntu, not sure if
>> that is 12.10.
>>
>> Is there somebody willing to mail me a cd with the latest LTS Ubuntu on
>> it?
>> I will of course pay postage and the cost of the cd and handling fees, if
>> any.
>>
>> My address is:
>> FC Els
>> PO Box 211,
>> Orania
>> 8752
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Chris
>>
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>> Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2012 00:16:34 +0200
>> From: "=?utf-8?B?dGltQGN5YmVyc21hcnQuY28uemE=?="
>>         <tim at cybersmart.co.za>
>> To: "=?utf-8?B?VWJ1bnR1IFNvdXRoIEFmcmljYW4gTG9jYWwgQ29tbXVuaXR5?="
>>         <ubuntu-za at lists.ubuntu.com>
>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-za] Ubuntu 12.10
>> Message-ID: <20121102221635.7B93B132E819 at smtpauth2.cybersmart.co.za>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
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>> PS Chris, don't worry about cost. Thats what this community is about
>> Cheers
>>
>> Sent from my HTC
>>
>> ----- Reply message -----
>> From: "Chris Els" <chrisels1951 at gmail.com>
>> To: <ubuntu-za at lists.ubuntu.com>
>> Subject: [ubuntu-za] Ubuntu 12.10
>> Date: Fri, Nov 2, 2012 18:16
>>
>>
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> I need to upgrade from 10.10 to the latest version of Ubuntu.
>> I would prefer to get the latest LTS version of Ubuntu, not sure if
>> that is 12.10.
>>
>> Is there somebody willing to mail me a cd with the latest LTS Ubuntu on
>> it?
>> I will of course pay postage and the cost of the cd and handling fees, if
>> any.
>>
>> My address is:
>> FC Els
>> PO Box 211,
>> Orania
>> 8752
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Chris
>>
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