[ubuntu-za] Workshops

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Sudhashen

I am with you on this one.

On Sat, 2008-11-22 at 09:30 +0200, Sudhashen Naicker wrote:

> philip at pinksoft.co.za wrote:
> 
> > I would be willing to pay R 300 to come to an Ubuntu Workshop as long 
> > as I did not have to drive to far. I would also be happy to present 
> > workshops on using TurboCASH on Ubuntu, as long as I don't have to get 
> > involved in financing or organising venues.  That said, I don't think 
> > it is a business.
> >
> > On workshops the real question is how much would you pay for a 
> > Workshop and how much would an expert be willing to receive to give 
> > them? I have this problem in the TurboCASH project. I charge the users 
> > R 570 for a 3 hour workshop and I myself am not enthusiatic to do it 
> > for less than R 2000. In the end I forego it because I can never find 
> > enough payers or presenters willing to work for less. The bother of 
> > putting it together, either in a Hotel, in an office or even on the 
> > Web is simply doesn't match the demand.
> >
> > It does not help to lower the price. All that happens then, is that 
> > people say they will come and then don't. As you approach the "margin" 
> > with around R 150 per person, being the cost of the room the whole 
> > affair becomes a burden. I guess this is one of the downsides of the 
> > freeloader mentality in Open Source that  essentially we have 
> > oursleves to blame for creating.
> >
> > The posts that I put in this list often suggests that there is a 
> > commercial aspect missing to the Ubuntu project that effectively 
> > excludes a whole group of business users, who would otherwise 
> > participate. The workshops is just one such example, CD distribution, 
> > 24/7 support, integration with Windows are others,  Any attempt to 
> > talk this way doesn't raise my popularity, so I have effectively 
> > stopped bringing this up. However for those of you totally convinced 
> > that jolly-hockey- sticks-and- whose-round -is it- anyway-approach is 
> > totally the way to go, you might want to take a  look at these graphs. 
> > Alexa graphs are independent views of Internet activity. While they 
> > have their flaws, believe me you can trust them more that the 
> > utterings of the web site owners.
> >
> > http://www.turbocash.net/developer/philip/Alexa/ubuntu.jpg
> >
> > http://www.turbocash.net/developer/philip/Alexa/ubuntu2.jpg
> >
> >
> >
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> >> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:52:54 +0200
> >> From: David Rubin <davidrub at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-za] Ubuntu workshops?
> >> To: Ubuntu South African Local Community <ubuntu-za at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> >> I agree there are just tons of applications/features I have never
> >> used purely because I never knew about them.
> >>
> >> Maybe a weekly Workshop/Lesson by any one that wants to take it on.
> >>
> >> D
> >>
> >> Reenen Laurie wrote:
> >>   
> >>> Having workshops (even if it's ON-LINE via the IRC channel can be a very
> >>> cool thing!) 
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: ubuntu-za-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com
> >>> [mailto:ubuntu-za-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of
> >>> simone at saxonwoldprimary.co.za
> >>> Sent: 21-November-2008 12:20
> >>> To: Ubuntu South African Local Community
> >>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-za] Ubuntu workshops?
> >>>
> >>> Quoting Wikus Cornelius <wikusc at gmail.com>:
> >>> I think that is an excellent idea, I would be interested too!
> >>> Simone
> >>>
> >>>     
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> I am fairly new on this mailing list. Does Ubuntu-za have Ubuntu 
> >>>> workshops from time to time? The reason why I ask is Ubuntu has many 
> >>>> features that I do not know about and you I cannot really research 
> >>>> something that I do not know exists. Another thing is I have a lot of 
> >>>> small questions and it would be great to have a bunch of people around
> >>>>       
> >>>> to discuss it with.
> >>>>
> >>>> Wikus
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>   
> >
> um I was thinking more on the lines of a couple of enthusiasts getting 
> together - not having to pay for things other than goodwill contributing 
> to snacks etc maybe.  Was this more of a commercial idea?
> 
> 
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