[ubuntu-za] WiFi
Dale Marshall
dalemar at telkomsa.net
Sun Feb 17 10:25:55 GMT 2008
Good day Michael
The whole story with helping André boiled down to familiarising him with
Ubuntu. We reverted back to regular Ubuntu 7.10 with gnome desktop
(Installed under graphics safe mode for the laptop) and from there
everything basically worked out of the box. We had turned off the hidden
ssid option on his SMC router and the live cd could connect to it
without fuss. André have you tried hiding the ssid again and seeing if
the 2 machines will still connect?
Installation of the ATI driver was done with the Restricted Drivers
Manager. The only true issues we had were on the laptop which was with a
swap space error which was resolved (These being the things that André
doesn't understand and at this point isn't necessary as it should never
be a problem) and what seems to be an unresolved bug which doesn't let
the laptop boot without pressing ctrl+alt+f1 at a specific point -
anyone have any ideas? (ask André for dmesg output, there is an error to
do with modules if I remember correctly but our day was over already)
The desktop machine worked flawlessly with no issues whatsoever.
Basically everything just works (without the need for a million custom
scripts) as has been my general experience with Ubuntu (I'm getting the
impression that this isn't always the case for kubuntu but I'm not used
to the interface of it and am biased towards gnome I suppose) for some
time and I'm glad I got to prove that to André. Michael I'm not exactly
certain what you're asking. Are you wanting to go to any location and be
able to connect to whatever wireless connection is available to you?
i.e. roaming
If that is the case then Ubuntu should be doing so without hassle. Just
check under System -> Administration -> Network (not sure of the UIé
method in kde, system settings maybe?) and ensure that you have roaming
mode enabled. From there it should be the case of just left clicking the
networkmanager icon and selecting which network to connect to. It will
ask you to enter the key and security type - this will then be stored
with Keyring (entries can be viewed using keyring manager) and will
connect to the network from thereon if it is present or if specifically
selected.
Hope that helps in some way.
Regards
Dale
On Sun, 2008-02-17 at 10:20 +0200, Michael wrote:
> Greetings
>
> One of my biggest gripes with Linux in general is the support for
> dynamic environments, especially for mobile people who connect to
> multiple networks like me.
>
> KNetwork Manager is far from great and I eventually gave up and
> started writing my own scripts to configure my network based on where
> I am connecting which is an ugly work-around but things like WiFi
> Internet cafe's are too much of a mission so unfortunately I revert to
> Windows....
>
> Anyone got a decent working solution for dynamic network profiles
> they would care to share? (Maybe ask Dale to describe what he did?)
> Mine is basically a bunch of crude manually generated "interfaces"
> files which I copy to /etc/networks and restart networking and I am
> looking for a decent replacement, one that could handle things like
> WiFi internet cafe's as well more dynamically, this one of the things
> M$ seems to do well out the box.
>
> I have a IBM notebook which comes with "Access Connections" to
> handle various network profiles including things like default
> printers, VPN connectivity etc which is the best I have ever come
> across but it only works under winbloze )c:{
>
> Regards
> M i c h a e l L G r i f f i n
> o
> o
> .--.
> |o_o |
> |:_/ |
> // \ \
> (| | )
> /'\_ _/`\
> \___)=(___/
> Confucius: He who play in root,
> eventually kill tree.
>
>
> On 16/02/2008, André Truter <andre at sensorysolutions.co.za> wrote:
> > Hi Mark
> >
> > Wait before you go on. Dale came past yesterday and he showed me a couple of
> > things I'm also battling with. This helped a lot. Although it will take me
> > ages to try remember and understand what he did.
> >
> > But with the wifi, I realized that the ssid was hidden :-) it's not with the
> > security tab in die router but that's why I didn't see it. Now both my PC
> > and Notebook is on the wifi :-). Although I should be able to connect to it
> > while its hidden, my vista does. At work our ssid is also hidden but Ubuntu
> > does see it as if wasn't.
> >
> > Anyway I'm connected, it would be nice to have it hidden bit it's working.
> >
> > Okay, laugh enjoy your self's. I'll probably still come with these
> > "intelligent mishaps". One of these YEARS I'll get there...
> >
> > André
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ubuntu-za-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com
> > [mailto:ubuntu-za-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Mark Stockton
> > Sent: 14 February 2008 12:20 PM
> > To: Ubuntu South African Local Community
> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-za] WiFi
> >
> > Hi Andre
> >
> > If you drop me a direct mail with your routers WiFi config I'll write the
> > commands for you. Otherwise typing man iwconfig in a terminal window will
> > help. There are also lots of examples in the man page.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's
> > limits."
> > -- Albert Einstein
> >
> > ---------- Original Message -----------
> > From: André Truter <andre at sensorysolutions.co.za>
> > To: "'Ubuntu South African Local Community'" <ubuntu-za at lists.ubuntu.com>
> > Sent: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:13:55 +0200
> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-za] WiFi
> >
> > > Hi Mark
> > >
> > > No idea how to. I've tried to configure in the past my Ubuntu 7.06
> > > in sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces to add the config manually,
> > > where it worked. There I used sudo iwconfig to look if the router
> > > was picked up or not but that's it. The info there doesn't mean that
> > > much to me except for the "Access point".
> > >
> > > I've added it manually in the KNetworkManager with no satisfaction.
> > > After that I don't even detect my neighbours one anymore.
> > >
> > > André
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ubuntu-za-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-za-
> > > bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Mark Stockton Sent: 14
> > > February 2008 11:25 AM To: Ubuntu South African Local Community
> > > Subject: [ubuntu-za] WiFi
> > >
> > > Hi Andre
> > >
> > > Please excuse me if this is a dumb question as I havn't been
> > > following the thread. But have you tried configuring the WiFi using
> > > "sudo iwconfig"?
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
> > > "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's
> > > limits."
> > > -- Albert Einstein
> > >
> > > ---------- Original Message -----------
> > > From: André Truter <andre at sensorysolutions.co.za>
> > > To: "'Ubuntu South African Local Community'" <ubuntu-za at lists.ubuntu.com>
> > > Sent: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:09:47 +0200
> > > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-za] FW: Books
> > >
> > > > Hi Craig
> > > >
> > > > I installed Wifi-radar. With opening it nothing happens. I made a
> > > > shortcut on my desktop; KDEInit could not launch 'gksudo'.: Could
> > > > not find 'executable.
> > > >
> > > > Any ideas? I did install again to look if there is errors, nothing,
> > > > reboot still the same.
> > > >
> > > > André
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: ubuntu-za-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-za-
> > > > bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Craig A. Adams Sent: 14
> > > > February 2008 06:39 AM To: Ubuntu South African Local Community
> > > > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-za] FW: Books
> > > >
> > > > Hi Andre,
> > > >
> > > > If you are able to find an alternative way to connect the machine,
> > > > try to install wifi-radar from the universe repository and see if it
> > > > can detect your wireless network.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.ubuntugeek.com/wifi-radar-simple-tool-to-manage-wireless-
> > > > profiles.html#more-392
> > > >
> > > > Kindest Regards
> > > >
> > > > Craig A. Adams
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 2008-02-13 at 18:35 +0200, André Truter wrote:
> > > > > Hi Jonathan
> > > > >
> > > > > Nope nothing, I still see the neighbours wireless but not mine.
> > > > >
> > > > > André
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: André Truter [mailto:andre at sensorysolutions.co.za]
> > > > > Sent: 13 February 2008 02:47 PM
> > > > > To: 'Ubuntu South African Local Community'
> > > > > Subject: RE: [ubuntu-za] Books
> > > > >
> > > > > Jonathan
> > > > >
> > > > > I normally see one of my neighbours wifi but not mine, but this also
> > tells
> > > > > me it's working. I've tried sitting next to it 50cm from router
> > nothing. As
> > > > > I'm not getting a screen I've deleted it from my notebook.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm setting up Kubuntu on my desktop now, someone told me to try this.
> > The
> > > > > same wifi card is in there a Ralink when I'm finished I'll try the no
> > > > > security and let you know.
> > > > >
> > > > > André
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: ubuntu-za-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com
> > > > > [mailto:ubuntu-za-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan
> > Sparks
> > > > > Sent: 13 February 2008 02:25 PM
> > > > > To: Ubuntu South African Local Community
> > > > > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-za] Books
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Andre,
> > > > >
> > > > > I have not been using Ubuntu or Linux for long but have had problems
> > > > > setting up my wireless network so for what it is worth try going back
> > to
> > > > > basics. If you are connecting at work your card and setup must be OK.
> > > > >
> > > > > Make sure you are in range. Sounds stupid but my broadcom based card
> > in
> > > > > my laptop connected fine from my bedroom when in XP, but wouldn't in
> > > > > Ubuntu. I ended up moving the router to the kitchen.
> > > > >
> > > > > Turn off security settings (WEP, WPA ect) on router to try get it to
> > > > > connect like that first.
> > > > >
> > > > > Make sure DHCP is turned on on the router.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers
> > > > > Jonathan Sparks
> > > > >
> > > > > André Truter wrote:
> > > > > > That's the problem I [UTF-8?][UTF-8?]don’t what to buy a book
> > and it's not
> > > going to give
> > > > > me
> > > > > > info on how to configure hardware or it's based on older versions.
> > Will it
> > > > > > make a difference or is all the releases the same that one book can
> > be
> > > > > used
> > > > > > for all Ubuntu commands and configurations?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Well if it search for a wireless network nothing is found. If I try
> > to
> > > > > > connect manual it's not connecting.
> > > > > > At work we have one from Duxbury "NetGear" and no problem it see's
> > it I
> > > > > add
> > > > > > the key and I'm on.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > André
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: ubuntu-za-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com
> > > > > > [mailto:ubuntu-za-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Morgan
> > Collett
> > > > > > Sent: 13 February 2008 11:27 AM
> > > > > > To: Ubuntu South African Local Community
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-za] Books
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Feb 13, 2008 9:48 AM, André Truter <andre at sensorysolutions.co.za>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Is there any books you can recommend for me to get myself up to
> > speed on
> > > > > >> Linux and Ubuntu?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There are lots of Ubuntu books. Search Amazon books for Ubuntu
> > Linux...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > They are pitched at readers with different levels of experience, so
> > I
> > > > > > can't recommend anything specific. The only one I have is the first
> > > > > > edition of the Official Ubuntu Book which I bought more for
> > historical
> > > > > > reasons and to support the authors than to get something out of it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Can anyone help me to get Ubuntu7.10 to see my wireless SMC 2804WBR
> > > > > >>
> > > > > > router?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please tell us more about the problem and configuration.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > Morgan
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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