[UbuntuWomen] Further Discussion on Process and Communication

Elizabeth Krumbach lyz at ubuntu.com
Fri Feb 5 21:22:33 UTC 2010

On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 3:58 PM, || स्वक्ष || vid <vid at svaksha.com> wrote:
> With all due respect, the Nov4 mail[1] sent to the list only
> automatically subscribes the list to the blueprint[2] as per LP
> settings. The mail never mentioned _explicitly_ that this was put up
> for discussion on the list/forums. In all probability since the mails
> dont explicitly ask for an opinion/input from members, people were
> silent. Announcements are not the same as "hey lets discuss blah,
> blah..".

So it sounds like a way to make this more clear would be to make an
announcement to accompany blueprints explaining that we're planning
for UDS. While the blueprint+UDS process is typical within Ubuntu
projects, this project seeks to get newcomers and community members,
so many people may not be familiar with the process.

> Secondly, What process decisions would be taken at UDS? Neither the
> BP[2] nor the mails prior to UDS discussed this in detail.

For some history on this: Back at the UDS for Karmic there was an
impromptu Ubuntu Women session. UDS Lucid was only the second time
Ubuntu Women had been at a UDS and this time we announced it ahead of
time and had a blueprint. The process isn't perfect yet, but we're
getting there and I'm confident we'll do better next time. I was
delighted that we had remote participation and a lot more women
attending in person who hadn't been involved with the project before
UDS. It was exciting to see so many new people joining us and wanting
to help :)

> Another point raised by many was "UW meeting @UDS" --  While we were
> aware of the UW at UDS meeting, not everyone involved with UW got to
> attend it.

I think it's unreasonable to always expect every member to be at every
IRC meeting, UDS session, read every forums post and engage in every
mailing list thread. The important thing is that after these
discussions occur the details are posted in a shared space where
everyone who wants to can contribute and weigh in.

And I do want to remind everyone that while many Ubuntu teams do make
decisions at UDS (Wow, no more Gimp in the base install? What an
announcement!), no actual decisions were made at UDS by the Ubuntu
Women team. It was all discussions and planning, all of which was
later posted on the list for discussion and discussed at meetings in
IRC, as Amber has documented (thanks again for taking the time to do
this, Amber!).

Finally, I want to say that I'm really pleased with the direction this
team is going. Having a voting team defined, the productive meetings
these past few months, all the work that so many women on the team
have been putting in. Thanks everyone!

Elizabeth Krumbach // Lyz // pleia2

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