[UbuntuWomen] ubuntu4girls
Judy Okite
judyokite at gmail.com
Fri Sep 28 19:37:49 UTC 2007
Congratulations to both Mackenzie and Riwal.
Riwal you've got a great idea,that can be emulated across the board and I
wouldnt mind to help in any way I can.
Way to Go!
Kind Regards,
On 9/28/07, ubuntu-women-request at lists.ubuntu.com <
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> 1. Mackenzie Morgan is now an Ubuntu Member! (Elizabeth Bevilacqua)
> 2. Re: Mackenzie Morgan is now an Ubuntu Member! (bapoumba)
> 3. Ubuntu4gilrs ( Mariwal Jord?o )
> 4. Re: Ubuntu4girls projetc (Danyelle Gragsone)
> 5. Re: Ubuntu4girls projetc (Miriam Ruiz)
> 6. Re: Ubuntu4girls projetc (Elizabeth Bevilacqua)
> 7. Re: Ubuntu4girls projetc (Miriam Ruiz)
> 8. Re: Ubuntu4girls projetc (Meg Kurdziolek)
> 9. Re: Ubuntu4girls projetc (Miriam Ruiz)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 07:07:43 -0400
> From: "Elizabeth Bevilacqua" <lyz at ubuntu.com>
> Subject: [UbuntuWomen] Mackenzie Morgan is now an Ubuntu Member!
> To: Ubuntu-Women <ubuntu-women at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> In the spirit of continuing to encourage women on-list by posting
> about women who have become Members and made other accomplishments
> within the Ubuntu Project - Congrats to Mackenzie Morgan for being
> approved as an Ubuntu Member yesterday!
>
> Mackenzie (macogw on freenode) has contributed to helping out users
> with technical issues on the Ubuntu Forums, spread Ubuntu to family
> and classmates and has been working heavily with the Ubuntu DC LoCo
> team and is a moderator for the Northeast US forums. and (most
> exciting for me!) has been spending time with the Ubuntu Pennsylvania
> team as well since she comes home to to spend time in Pittsburgh a few
> times a year.
>
> Her wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacoMorgan
> Launchpad: https://launchpad.net/~maco.m
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> --
> Elizabeth Bevilacqua
> http://www.princessleia.com
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 13:19:58 +0200
> From: bapoumba <bapoumba at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [UbuntuWomen] Mackenzie Morgan is now an Ubuntu Member!
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> On 9/28/07, Elizabeth Bevilacqua <lyz at ubuntu.com> wrote:
> > In the spirit of continuing to encourage women on-list by posting
> > about women who have become Members and made other accomplishments
> > within the Ubuntu Project - Congrats to Mackenzie Morgan for being
> > approved as an Ubuntu Member yesterday!
> >
> > Mackenzie (macogw on freenode) has contributed to helping out users
> > with technical issues on the Ubuntu Forums, spread Ubuntu to family
> > and classmates and has been working heavily with the Ubuntu DC LoCo
> > team and is a moderator for the Northeast US forums. and (most
> > exciting for me!) has been spending time with the Ubuntu Pennsylvania
> > team as well since she comes home to to spend time in Pittsburgh a few
> > times a year.
> >
> > Her wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacoMorgan
> > Launchpad: https://launchpad.net/~maco.m
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> Congratulations, Mackenzie!
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 09:09:54 -0300
> From: " Mariwal Jord?o " <mariwal at mariwal.net>
> Subject: [UbuntuWomen] Ubuntu4gilrs
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> Hello
>
> First of all: sorry my poor english.
>
> Elizabeth Bevilacqua
> "So my first suggestion is not assume that all girls like "pink and
> flowers" - remove the "All things that girls want." sentence from the
> launchpad description. My second suggestion is to fix the spelling and
> grammatical errors, which I understand might require a fluent English
> speaker."
>
> - I will do all changes that you suggest, I already contact a great
> english
> speaker to made the changes. :)
>
>
> Sarah Hobbs
> "If you wish to market to young girls,
> you need to properly understand your audience."
>
> - Hi Sarah, In my contry I'm a "Personal Traineir in Computer Sceince".
> Basiclly, my students, are females.
> See one of my sites: http://www.forgirls.3njoy.com
> Well, befere I start this project, I start a discussion in brasilian forum
> BR, see this topic: http://ubuntuforum-br.org/index.php?topic=25615.0
> - All my female students said to me that Windows is uglly, so I show the
> Ubuntu, all customized for girls, and she like very much.
>
>
> Miriam Ruiz
> "While I agree with Lyz, if this is a serious project I'd be willing
> for help"
>
> - Yes this is a serios project. And thanks for your help. :)
>
>
> Sarah Hobbs
> "Oh, and Liz, it's girls. Not women, but girls."
>
> - Yes, girls, teens and young ladies
>
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> For all:
> I'm sorry if my project upset/ofend you.
> I'm a Ubuntu fan, and my intention is just introduce "girls" in a
> wonderful
> world that Ubuntu have.
> It's more than a "pink" Ubuntu, is a new concept, recentlly I ready that
> in
> my country the girls are half of computers user. Ubuntu alread have all
> softwares, just click one button and was done. My students love this
> feature.
>
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> Mariwal Jordao
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> Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 08:56:46 -0400
> From: "Danyelle Gragsone" <ladynikon at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [UbuntuWomen] Ubuntu4girls projetc
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> To assume that all girls like that stuff as well is bad. When I was a
> girl ( and still do) I hated pink. Yeah i liked strawberry shortcake
> but I preferred the smurfs. Maybe you should do a childrens ubuntu?
> A lot of kids are usually into bright colors and rather cartoony
> things. Not saying there aren't girls out there that aren't into it (
> my goddaughter is 12 and loves the brats.) If you make it for "girls"
> what about the ones that aren't into girly stuff? or are you going to
> just go for girls who like that sort of stuff?
>
> Danyelle
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 15:31:15 +0200
> From: "Miriam Ruiz" <little.miry at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [UbuntuWomen] Ubuntu4girls projetc
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> Quote found by Erinn Clark, from Debian Women: "That's sexism, that
> is. Going around giving people girly presents just because they're a
> girl." (Good Omens (by Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman)
>
> Aside from that, if the purpose is to do a girly ubuntu, why not?
>
> These are the steps I would go through:
>
> 1) Decide the target group.
> 2) Decide the extent of the changes: Just a theme? Selection of
> packages? Create some packages? Develop specific software?
> 3) Check the target group for their preferences. Ask the girls what
> they would want, instead of imagining what we would want if we were
> them.
> 4) See what's already available. Maybe have a look to what other
> groups are doing and what we could reuse.
> 5) Implement what needs to be added, and also add it to the base
> distribution, Ubuntu and/or Debian if they can benefit from it too
> (like a theme, new packages or new software)
>
> Of course, one of the main points here is that there is a need of
> artists willing to develop the artwork, as that is gonna probably be
> the major difference with the base distribution.
>
> Miry
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> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 09:51:12 -0400
> From: "Elizabeth Bevilacqua" <lyz at ubuntu.com>
> Subject: Re: [UbuntuWomen] Ubuntu4girls projetc
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> On 9/28/07, Miriam Ruiz <little.miry at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Aside from that, if the purpose is to do a girly ubuntu, why not?
>
> My issue is calling it "girly" or "for girls" - as a girl I was never
> interested in pink or flowers, and felt like a total oddball in this
> world that wants to flood us with them.
>
> Why not call it Pink and Flowers Ubuntu? Or Pretty Ubuntu? Why does
> the name have to be gender focused?
>
> --
> Elizabeth Bevilacqua
> http://www.princessleia.com
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> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 15:59:57 +0200
> From: "Miriam Ruiz" <little.miry at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [UbuntuWomen] Ubuntu4girls projetc
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> 2007/9/28, Elizabeth Bevilacqua <lyz at ubuntu.com>:
> > Why not call it Pink and Flowers Ubuntu? Or Pretty Ubuntu? Why does
> > the name have to be gender focused?
>
> I agree to your suggestion, it'll be nice to be able to attract some
> boys to it too, and fight against the gender gap. I still don't know
> if the original plan was just to develop a theme ore there was some
> more in it. You don't need to create a whole distro for that, a new
> theme could be perfectly added to Ubuntu. I'm just waiting an answer
> to that.
>
> Miry
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 10:32:31 -0400
> From: "Meg Kurdziolek" <meg.kurdziolek at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [UbuntuWomen] Ubuntu4girls projetc
> To: Ubuntu-Women <ubuntu-women at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> When I was a kid, I really liked computer games. Some of them were
> educational, all of them were fun. I think making a live CD for kids where
> fun themes (maybe popular cartoons?) and games are already installed would
> be good.
>
> Also, I don't know if it was just me, but I really liked drawing pictures
> and making my own graphics. (I still do!) I would put the pictures I made
> on
> invitations to a birthday party and just funny things I would make for my
> parents. Gimp is a bit much to ask a 6 year old to deal with, we could
> make
> sure they have simple drawing programs.
>
> Also, we could work on the navigation. We want to make the games and
> everything very easily accessible.
>
> Those are my ideas, but I agree with everyone else who said we should talk
> to some actual youngins. They could tell you their favorite cartoons,
> favorite colors, and favorite hobbies which would help in the creation of
> themes.
>
> ~Meg Kurdziolek
>
> On 9/28/07, Miriam Ruiz <little.miry at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > 2007/9/28, Elizabeth Bevilacqua <lyz at ubuntu.com>:
> > > Why not call it Pink and Flowers Ubuntu? Or Pretty Ubuntu? Why does
> > > the name have to be gender focused?
> >
> > I agree to your suggestion, it'll be nice to be able to attract some
> > boys to it too, and fight against the gender gap. I still don't know
> > if the original plan was just to develop a theme ore there was some
> > more in it. You don't need to create a whole distro for that, a new
> > theme could be perfectly added to Ubuntu. I'm just waiting an answer
> > to that.
> >
> > Miry
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> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:05:09 +0200
> From: "Miriam Ruiz" <little.miry at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [UbuntuWomen] Ubuntu4girls projetc
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> 2007/9/28, Meg Kurdziolek <meg.kurdziolek at gmail.com>:
> > When I was a kid, I really liked computer games. Some of them were
> > educational, all of them were fun. I think making a live CD for kids
> where
> > fun themes (maybe popular cartoons?) and games are already installed
> would
> > be good.
>
> I don't think popular cartoons are really an option, as they're gonna
> be protected by trademarks.
>
> > Also, I don't know if it was just me, but I really liked drawing
> pictures
> > and making my own graphics. (I still do!) I would put the pictures I
> made on
> > invitations to a birthday party and just funny things I would make for
> my
> > parents. Gimp is a bit much to ask a 6 year old to deal with, we could
> make
> > sure they have simple drawing programs.
> >
> > Also, we could work on the navigation. We want to make the games and
> > everything very easily accessible.
> >
> > Those are my ideas, but I agree with everyone else who said we should
> talk
> > to some actual youngins. They could tell you their favorite cartoons,
> > favorite colors, and favorite hobbies which would help in the creation
> of
> > themes.
>
> I totally agree, that should be the first step, talking with the kids
> themselves.
>
> Miry
>
>
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