[UbuntuWomen] Ubuntu, women and artwork...

[Caroline Ford]

On Thu, 2007-05-03 at 23:33 -0400, t u wrote:
> Danyelle Gragsone wrote:
> > I guess hanging around boys as much as I do.. I really never took
> > offense to it.  Guys will be guys.. who will post pics of womens
> > boobs. I agree with Caroline it just doesn't fit into what ubuntu was
> > trying to do.
> 
> Normalizing this kind of practices is part of the hegemonic system. Not
> only does it make it easier for men to practice whatever the practice
> is, it also causes women to perceive it as normal, creating a kind of
> internalized oppression that suppresses any chance of resistance.
> 
> As you mention, "guys will be guys". The logical chain of thought goes
> on to suggest that
> 1. it is normal for sexualized pictures of women to appear on search
> results for "ubuntu wallpaper" to appear on Google.
> 2. it is normal not to resist such images
> 3. There is nothing one can / should do about it
> 
> Another example of this was previously discussed. Young American women
> are used to be called "guys" when they are in groups, and they do call
> each other "guys" during conversation: it is "normal". At the same time,
> it is a disguised way of excluding women from the conversation...
> 
> In short, if one normalizes oppression, one cannot resist against it...
> 
> PS. I think the previous posters pointed out these pictures as
> offensive, and I agree:
> [disclaimer: links go to sexualized + objectifying pics of women -not
> work-safe]
> http://REMOVED
> http://REMOVED
> 
> Caroline said one of the pictures -"the first one" (?) was not
> offensive, but I couldn't understand which picture she was referring to.
> Any clarifications and some more explanation would be nice :)
> 
> PSS. Seems like no one is interested in the revival of the
> ubuntu-calendar package?[1]
> 
> [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-calendar/+bug/77289
> 
I think the breasts one is offensive - but the multicoloured bottom one
is tasteful and artistic.

Caroline