[UbuntuWomen] Ubuntu, women and artwork...

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Danyelle Gragsone wrote:
> I guess hanging around boys as much as I do.. I really never took
> offense to it.  Guys will be guys.. who will post pics of womens
> boobs. I agree with Caroline it just doesn't fit into what ubuntu was
> trying to do.

Normalizing this kind of practices is part of the hegemonic system. Not
only does it make it easier for men to practice whatever the practice
is, it also causes women to perceive it as normal, creating a kind of
internalized oppression that suppresses any chance of resistance.

As you mention, "guys will be guys". The logical chain of thought goes
on to suggest that
1. it is normal for sexualized pictures of women to appear on search
results for "ubuntu wallpaper" to appear on Google.
2. it is normal not to resist such images
3. There is nothing one can / should do about it

Another example of this was previously discussed. Young American women
are used to be called "guys" when they are in groups, and they do call
each other "guys" during conversation: it is "normal". At the same time,
it is a disguised way of excluding women from the conversation...

In short, if one normalizes oppression, one cannot resist against it...

PS. I think the previous posters pointed out these pictures as
offensive, and I agree:
[disclaimer: links go to sexualized + objectifying pics of women -not
work-safe]
http://REMOVED
http://REMOVED

Caroline said one of the pictures -"the first one" (?) was not
offensive, but I couldn't understand which picture she was referring to.
Any clarifications and some more explanation would be nice :)

PSS. Seems like no one is interested in the revival of the
ubuntu-calendar package?[1]

[1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-calendar/+bug/77289