Does somebody use both, current Intel and AMD tower PCs?

Sat Mar 18 18:49:30 UTC 2023

On 19/3/23 01:45, Ralf Mardorf via ubuntu-users wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I know, it's always the same old question, each time somebody considers
> to buy a new machine.
> 
> AMD CPUs for way less money than Intel CPUs claim to have less power
> consumption and more cores at a higher clock speed than Intel CPUs.
> 
> In my experiences with old AMD CPUs, on cheap mobos, they were always a
> PITA, causing issues with real-time audio, while the only Intel CPU I'm
> still using, also on a cheap mobo, doesn't cause much trouble at all,
> let alone that the Intel GPU is way easier to set up, than all those ATI
> and NVIDIA graphics I used to use.
> 
> Does somebody use both, nowadays AMD and Intel CPUs on middle priced
> mobos? I've got the impression that cheap mobos nowadays don't provide
> much PCIe, let alone any PCI slot anymore. I want at least lots of PCIe
> slots so I won't run out of slots no matter what interests me in the
> future.
> 
> How does TSC of the CPUs of both vendors compare nowadays?
> 
> I noticed that my old Intel machine tends to run way to often at 100+%,
> so when compiling or using a hypervisor the fan speed becomes
> uncomfortably loud and performance does drop at least when using a
> hypervisor. I suspect the time has come when software gets that much
> slower, that my 6 years old Celeron G1840 dual-core CPU, 2.80GHz machine
> is no longer in the running.
> 
> Regards,
> Ralf
> 

Depending on your circumstances, and, what is available there, I picked 
up some refurbished computers, that I believe are well worth the prices 
paid.

This computer that I am using, is

"
System:
   Kernel: 5.15.0-67-generic x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 11.3.0 
Desktop: MATE 1.26.0 wm: marco
     dm: LightDM Distro: Linux Mint 21.1 Vera base: Ubuntu 22.04 jammy
Machine:
   Type: Desktop System: Dell product: Precision Tower 5810 v: N/A 
serial: <superuser required>
     Chassis: type: 7 serial: <superuser required>
   Mobo: Dell model: 0K240Y v: A02 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: 
Dell v: A34
     date: 10/19/2020
CPU:
   Info: 14-core model: Intel Xeon E5-2660 v4 bits: 64 type: MT MCP 
arch: Broadwell rev: 1 cache:
     L1: 896 KiB L2: 3.5 MiB L3: 35 MiB
   Speed (MHz): avg: 1427 high: 2602 min/max: 1200/3200 cores: 1: 1566 
2: 1197 3: 1198 4: 1197
     5: 1198 6: 2553 7: 1197 8: 1197 9: 1462 10: 1198 11: 1197 12: 1419 
13: 2317 14: 1198 15: 1197
     16: 1197 17: 1197 18: 1197 19: 1197 20: 1197 21: 2602 22: 1197 23: 
1725 24: 1197 25: 1197
     26: 1197 27: 2391 28: 1197 bogomips: 111745
   Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
Graphics:
   Device-1: NVIDIA TU116 [GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER] vendor: ASUSTeK 
driver: nvidia v: 525.85.05
     pcie: speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 16 ports: active: none off: HDMI-A-1 
empty: DP-1,DVI-D-1
     bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:21c4
   Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.3 compositor: marco v: 1.26.0 
driver: X: loaded: nvidia
     unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,nouveau,vesa gpu: nvidia display-ID: :0 
screens: 1
   Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 93
   Monitor-1: HDMI-0 res: 1920x1080 dpi: 94 diag: 598mm (23.5")
   OpenGL: renderer: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER/PCIe/SSE2 v: 4.6.0 
NVIDIA 525.85.05
     direct render: Yes
Audio:
   Device-1: Intel C610/X99 series HD Audio vendor: Dell driver: 
snd_hda_intel v: kernel
     bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:8d20
   Device-2: NVIDIA TU116 High Definition Audio vendor: ASUSTeK driver: 
snd_hda_intel v: kernel
     pcie: speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 03:00.1 chip-ID: 10de:1aeb
   Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.15.0-67-generic running: yes
   Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 15.99.1 running: yes
   Sound Server-3: PipeWire v: 0.3.48 running: yes
Network:
   Device-1: Intel Ethernet I217-LM vendor: Dell driver: e1000e v: 
kernel port: f020
     bus-ID: 00:19.0 chip-ID: 8086:153a
   IF: enp0s25 state: down mac: <filter>
   Device-2: Realtek 802.11ac NIC type: USB driver: rtl8821cu bus-ID: 
3-14:6 chip-ID: 0bda:c811
   IF: wlx90de8039844b state: up mac: <filter>
Drives:
   Local Storage: total: 10.44 TiB used: 3.67 TiB (35.1%)
   ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Kingston model: SA400S37480G size: 447.13 GiB 
speed: 6.0 Gb/s
     serial: <filter>
   ID-2: /dev/sdb vendor: Toshiba model: MG06ACA600E size: 5.46 TiB 
speed: 6.0 Gb/s
     serial: <filter>
   ID-3: /dev/sdc type: USB vendor: Samsung model: PSSD T7 size: 931.51 
GiB serial: <filter>
   ID-4: /dev/sdd vendor: Samsung model: Portable SSD T5 size: 931.51 
GiB serial: <filter>
   ID-5: /dev/sde vendor: Samsung model: Portable SSD T5 size: 931.51 
GiB serial: <filter>
   ID-6: /dev/sdf type: USB vendor: Toshiba model: MQ01UBB200 size: 1.82 
TiB serial: <filter>
"
with 128GB RAM.

It came with a 6 month warranty - a new computer comes with a 12 month 
warranty, and, this is pretty much an industrial level computer workhorse.

The only deficiency, is that the wifi device is a USB dongle, which is 
not as good as an internal wifi device.

It all works fairly well, and seems to cope (mostly) with what I do with it.

If you need to replace your current computer, perhaps, a refurbished 
one, with a Xeon CPU, and an adequate warranty, might be better than a 
new computer. New computers here, are mostly junk (but, then again, 
Australia is the dumping ground for the world), and, tend to come with 
no more than 8GB RAM; mostly, with 4GB RAM.

..
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
(UTC+0800)
..............