Ubuntu installers?

[M. Fioretti]

On Sat, Jan 07, 2023 10:07:42 AM +1100, Owen Thomas wrote:

> However, it would be excellent if Ubuntu took hold of one way of
> installing software and eviscerated all the others.

Owen,

I already said I do share your pain, but unless I missed something in
the previous posts, what you ask above is half impossible, half
irrelevant.

You can eviscerate all you want, but if a package is unavailable
in .deb format it will remain unavailable. That's the real and only
reason why this whole discussion is happening..

Ubuntu the distribution, that is its team of architects, maintainers,
testers etc.. has no resources to package every software in existence,
and cannot force external developers to package their software in .deb
format. So how could what you suggest solve that problem?

> Please keep Ubuntu simple...

this is something to say to all the EXTERNAL developers who package
their stuff only for installation via cpan, gem, pip, nodejs,
containers and so on. It's THEIR unavailability to do so that creates
the problem.

The only thing the maintainers and users of Ubuntu, and hopefully all
other distros could do would be to officially "condemn" those
practices, with the argument made here and in my post. That would not
be enough to *force* every independent developer to change ways, of
course (and thanks heaven, I add), but it may start a change.

       	    Marco
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