[off-topic] China - Was: The mess that is 'default browser'

Lily White lilywhite2005 at outlook.com
Sun Nov 7 15:06:16 UTC 2021


Though I believe you can hardly live a day without using, either directly or indirectly, any Chinese products.

That’s why free software is more important today, it’s something you can trust, without anyone’s interference.

>From LilyWhite with love
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No politics in this list, please.

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Subject: [off-topic] China - Was: The mess that is 'default browser'

On Sun, 7 Nov 2021 13:39:45 +0100, Liam Proven wrote:
>On Sun, 7 Nov 2021 at 10:38, Bret Busby <bret.busby at gmail.com> wrote:
>> So, I suppose, if you are happy being a servant of the Chinese
>> government, then that is your choice.
>
>That does not follow. My phone is Chinese (Umidigi: superb value for
>the money, and a very plain unmodified Android built). [snip]
>
>China is one of the main manufacturing economies in the world now. It
>is very hard to totally avoid it, but I see no particular reason to
>want to. Others may, that's fine and that's their choice. But using
>Chinese tools does not mean "being a servant of the Chinese
>government" in any way at all.

Hi,

Bret's wording is inappropriate, but actually he has got a point.

I have to admit that I also use Chinese products, since they do cost
a fraction of products from non-Chinese competitors. The quality grade
of Chinese products is amazing. I never got anything of poor quality.
The very cheap products are often even from way better quality, than way
more expensive products from non-Chinese competitors.

However, a moral conflict is appropriate not only when buying Chinese
products, but also when buying products from other countries, that are
actually produced in China. China isn't known for a high standard in
human rights.

Regards,
Ralf

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