Misleading YouTube video raspi ubuntu

Robert Heller heller at deepsoft.com
Thu May 13 15:08:24 UTC 2021


At Thu, 13 May 2021 14:23:27 +0200 "Ubuntu user technical support,? not for general discussions" <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com> wrote:

> 
> On Thu, 13 May 2021 at 13:03, Robert Heller <heller at deepsoft.com> wrote:
> >
> > I believe the original intent was for a wireless headless robot -- in this
> > case Wifi without a keyboard/monitor makes some sense.
> 
> Aha. ISWYM. OK, then, agreed.
> 
> > But I'm guessing that
> > Ubuntu server [headless Ubuntu] is not geared towards Wifi
> 
> Not really. It does it, it's documented and supported, and there are
> plenty of HOWTOs and things.
> 
> But it's tricky and a pain.
> 
> I reckon the safe, easy way is to configure the OS using an Ethernet
> cable, and using that connection, configure your wifi connection and
> get it running stably... *then* unplug the cable.
> 
> > and Ubuntu desktop,
> > which supports Wifi out-of-the-box does not have sshd out-of-the-box, so there
> > are weirdnesses going on here...
> 
> Agreed.
> 
> > Actually, I think Ubuntu server might not
> > have had sshd as part of the base install (I think I needed to install
> > openssh-server later), but I don't know if that applies to the Raspberry Pi
> > images.
> 
> That's a good question. I know I did it and I think it _is_
> preinstalled, but I didn't actually set up my RPi4 server headless. I
> used a screen and keyboard and Ethernet to get it working, then
> configured wifi later. I don't think I needed to add OpenSSH.
> 
> 
> > I know that openssh-server is installed in the Raspbian images (just
> > not started by default). The Beagle images all have sshd started by default.
> 
> Most distros do.
> 
> But the Ubuntu policy was a good idea: *no* open ports at all by
> default means that you do not need a firewall.

And this makes sense in the common X86-ish desktop world. "PC"s are never
normally "headless" and most "PC" uses don't need sshd and it would be a
possible security hole, if setup wrong... OTOH, the little ARM SBCs (RPis,
Beagles, etc.) are almost always "headless", so having sshd there is often
essential.

> 

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