Replacements for Firefox and Thunderbird?

[Kaj Haulrich]

On 14.01.2021 15.37, Liam Proven wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 at 19:38, Kaj Haulrich <kaj at haulrich.net> wrote:
>>
>> Now, since Mozilla has jumped on the thought police bandwagon to join Google, Twitter, Amazon and Facebook
> 
> [[citation needed]]
> 
> Mozilla & derivative products is the last totally open, non-proprietary browser.
> 
> *All* the other mainstream offerings use the Blink engine from Google.
> They may say they've removed all the Google monitoring code, but are
> you able to verify that? No? Then you are trusting them, or trusting
> their competence.
> 
> Brave is awful, rewriting referral links, involved in cryptocurrencies
> (which are *all* scams, without exception). Opera is Chinese,
> therefore almost certainly compromised by the CCP. Vivaldi is neutral,
> but still Blink. GNOME Epiphany is Blink. Even Konqueror, the origin
> of KHTML, is now Webkit, AFAIK. Webkit is Apple's rewrite of KHTML,
> and Webkit is the basis of Blink.
> 
> Don't get me wrong; I use Google and Chrome and find them good
> products. I *pay* for Google storage.
> 
> But if you don't trust Google you are better off with Firefox,
> Waterfox or Seamonkey than anything else.
> 
>> I'm looking for alternative browsers and an e-mail clients to run on my (K)Ubuntu workstation. Kmail [...] want to pull in a lot of dependencies
> 
> KMail *is* the KDE Email client. It doesn't add a hell of a lot to
> basic KDE. If you trust KDE you can trust KMail.
> 
>> and Evolution both both
> 
> Evolution is the GNOME email client. Makes no point if you use KDE, IMHO.
> 
> I have tried both; I could not get KMail working reliably and I don't
> like Evolution much. It works but I find it clunky and too
> Outlook-like for my tastes.
> 
>>   and I will not touch Gmail (or anything Google) in any way, manner, shape or form.
> 
> There is no official Google email client for Linux, so you can relax.
> (Android, yes; Linux, no.)
> 
>> Can anyone recommend a lean e-mail client and a browser that does not 'phone home'?
> 
> Lean email client? Lots.
> 
> • Claws
> • Sylpheed
> 
> A bit more alternative:
> • GNUstep Mail
> • Balsa
> • Seamonkey again
> • Mailspring
> • Trojitá (also KDE-native)
> 
> Browsers I've covered above. There are many but most are based on Google code.
> • SRWare Iron
> • ungoogled-chromium
> • QupZilla/Falkon
> • QuteBrowser
> • Otter Browser
> • IceCat/IceZilla
> • Midori
> • Netsurf
> • Dillo
> 
> --
> Liam Proven – 
Thanks a lot for your kind advice, Liam. For the time beeing I've 
settled with Dissenter (a gab fork of Brave, but without all the Bitcoin 
and other crap). Works like a breeze.

As for mail-client I've tried a lot, but have fallen back to 
Thunderbird. You may say that I've surrendered to Mozilla and their ilk, 
but - as far as I understand - Thunderbird is no longer a Mozilla 
product, neither is it affiliated with Google or the other suppressors 
of free speech.

Regard.
Kaj
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