Replacements for Firefox and Thunderbird?

[rikona]

> it depends. What do you need? Claws is a nice MUA, with less
> dependencies, but lacks comfortable HTML, outgoing message filters and
> several other features. On some machines Claws GTK2 branch suffers
> from a serious issue, so you might need to build the GTK3 branch,
> which fortunately isn't hard to do.

Does this imply that Claws may/will not work in the latest Kubuntu?

> Regarding a browser I would recommend against Pale Moon, TOR and Co,
> if you really want to get rid of Firefox. 

Building a new browser if a huge job. The 'base' for many browsers is
thus FF or Chrome, modified, with more or less of the obnoxious stuff
removed. AIUI one can't remove all of it and still have it run.

> The only Firefox clone that
> would probably fit your wish might be IceCat, but raw formulated
> "IceCat is not compatible with the Internet". An alternative might be
> Falkon. 

Falkon didn't run well, but I forget the details - that was a while ago.

> Again, it depends on what you want to do with the browser. If
> you dislike the new Firefox poolicy, it's hard to recommend other
> browsers. 

> I liked Opera, but upstream did a step into the wrong
> direction, too. 

So did I - used it for a long time, ran well. But, the Chrome and China
connections made it a bad choice for me. Hated to see the old one go
though...

> Vivaldi?

Runs OK, has some stuff removed to make it more attractive. 

I rather like Brave, but it is a run disaster. It eats up ALL memory in
the box and causes several problems, bad enough that I've stopped
using it. If they'd fix that memory hog issue, I'd put that near the
top of my list.

> I'm using different browsers for different purposes, even
> Google-Chrome, which unlikely will run on my Intel GPU on Ubuntu, with
> the dropped "intel" driver and only the "modesetting" driver
> available. I didn't test it on Ubuntu yet, but finished a test on
> Arch Linux today, so I'm back with kernels <5 and the "intel" driver.
> It's a shame that Intel support is broken and that there's no
> recovery in sight. Yes, yes, several users will now claim that their
> Intel PCs run without issues ... mine did, too ;), it still does with
> 4.19, still supported longterm kernels. How long will yours run
> without issues? Kernel updates will follow.
> 
> https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-Debian-Abandon-Intel-DDX
> https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=370022
> https://www.kernel.org/
> 
> Btw. on my machine Firefox suffers from hangs, too, when using the
> "modesetting" driver.
> 
> IOW if you chose a new mailer and/or browser, do also some research
> about Linux hardware support and interaction with the software.
> 
> Regards,
> Ralf
>