Another problem upgrading to 19.10

[Thomas Tanghus]

On Wednesday, 23 October 2019 17.19 Liam Proven wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 at 16:45, Thomas Tanghus <thomas at tanghus.net> wrote:
> > Yeah, I kinda got some idea what to do next, just getting tired. I've
> > been using GNU/Linux for 25+ years, and I'm tired of this stuff. Please
> > tell me other OSes are just as error prone ;)
> 
> I know *exactly* what you mean.
> 
> Unfortunately there is little to no money to be made from desktop
> Linux. The profits are in servers.
> 
> And in mobile/touch, but tragically, Ubuntu has given up on that.

I still have my hopes up for SailfishOS. I've been using that on my phone 
since 2013. The OS is great, but the resources are limited.

> More recently, though, I have read commentators who seem to agree that
> the polished, well-integrated desktop title has moved on from Ubuntu,
> so I've looked at some other desktop distros.

I'm a die-hard KDE/Plasma fan since before version 1, so kinda set in my 
ways ;) Except that I had to replace KDE-PIM for a year or two while Akonadi 
was simply too broken. Now I'm back and keeping my fingers crossed that it 
will stay reasonably stable.
 
On Wednesday, 23 October 2019 19.57 Paul Smith wrote:
> To be clear, I think Thomas is talking about support for in-place
> upgrade to newer releases, not "desktop spit and polish" issues or even
> from-scratch installer issues.  So I don't think this message does
> address *exactly* what he means :)

Regarding the desktop you're right, as indicated above.

> There are not many Ubuntu systems out there, outside of simple VMs or
> containers, which have exactly the same set of packages installed with
> the same configuration.  This makes it impossible to fully test
> upgrades as they might affect all users.  And the further one gets from
> the "baseline" system, the harder it gets (for example, if you install
> a different window system, or de-configure some systemd components, or
> have some rare packages installed for unusual hardware, etc.)

It is actually amazing what they do get to work for those of us who won't 
abandon the Linux desktop :)
 
> And, sometimes something is just boffed; that is rare in Ubuntu but
> does happen especially in non-LTS releases.

Yeah, I must admit I'm also too curious, so I use several PPAs and don't 
restrict to LTS.

Anyways, my box is up and running again \o/

-- 

/Thomas
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