Problem installing 19.10

[Bret Busby]

On 22/10/2019, Colin Law <clanlaw at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Oct 2019 at 17:49, Ian Bruntlett <ian.bruntlett at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Mon, 21 Oct 2019 at 15:15, Colin Law <clanlaw at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> It was a freshly formatted partition and I also tried telling the
>>> installer to format it.  However Ian's suggestion of deleting the
>>> partition and letting the installer format it from empty space seemed
>>> worth trying and it worked, and the rest of the install went without a
>>> hitch.  Not sure how I go about submitting a bug on this.
>>
>>
>> Not sure about this but... I believe the part of the installer that deals
>> with partitions does not indicate on its main screen whether or not a
>> partition will be formatted or not. If that is the case, I feel that
>> having that information available would be very useful.
>
> In the Something Else option it shows the existing partitions and to
> use one you double click it and it brings up a popup that allows you
> to specify the type (ext4 etc), the mount point and there is a
> checkbox to tell it to format the partition.  If it is an existing
> Ubuntu partition and you say not to format it then it will leave /home
> (and a couple of other dirs I think) as they are so user data and
> config is not overwritten.  That is not what I was trying to do
> though.
>
> Colin
>
>>
>> BW,
>>
>>
>> Ian
>>
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I did an update from 18.04 to 19.04 to 1.10, on one computer,
installed 19.04 then upgraded to 19.10, on another computer, and, did
a clean install of 19.10, on another computer, using created free
space in the clean install instance (I copied the data, and then
deleted the / and /home partitions, from and old Debian 7.8
installation, that I still had, from when I was (at that time) still
trying to get this computer working).

The one problem that I had, in the procedures, was in the cases of the
upgrades, where, when the process gets to the screen where it says x
number of packages will be installed, x number of packages are no
longer supported, and x number of packages will be removed, to view
the packages that are to be removed, the dialogue box expands, so that
the bottom, where the buttons to proceed or quit, are visible,
disappears off the bottom of the screen, never to be seen again, even
after the area where the packages are listed, is minimised, so, the
upgrade procedure has to be killed and restarted.

That, I think, is a bug.

After the 19.10 is installed, the applications are <expletive>,

On one computer, in trying to get some useful applications installed,
the Software Buttocks would install two or three programs out of the
selection queued for installation, then shut the computer down. After
this happened a few times, I managed to get synaptic installed, and
that installed all the packages that I sought, without any problems.

On another computer, where I had gone 18.04 -> 19.04 -> 19.10, the web
browser named Web (previously known as epiphany), when loaded with a
number of windows open, would simply kind of freeze - I could open
more windows, that had been loaded, from the taskbar, but, I could not
use the mouse within any open window, and, because of the progressive
downgrading that the developers are doing to the packages, this is one
of the packages that, like the increasingly useless midori (v0.5.11 is
far superior to v7.0), does not now allow a menu bar. So, to close the
application, I  had to use the "Force a delinquent application to
quit" utility. However, tonight, a system update for 19.10 became
available, and, after the update, that problem appears to have
disappeared for the Web web browser.

This is a bit like when I was using Debian, and. as I had said then, I
think Debian 3.1 was the best Debian version - for UbuntuMATE, I think
that 16.04 is far superior to 18.04, 19.04, and, 19.10. The versions,
like the packages, appear to be progressively deteriorating
(decomposing?)

It is like the zeroth law of thermodynamics - everything tends to
chaos and disorder.


-- 
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
..............

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 you'll know what the answer means."
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 Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
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