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[Gene Heskett]

On Monday 22 October 2018 09:35:09 Liam Proven wrote:

> On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 at 13:19, Gene Heskett <gheskett at shentel.net> 
wrote:
> > Liam, please take a look at TDE.
>
> Aha, you mean Trinity, the fork of KDE 3?
>
> Yes, I know it.
>
> There is a discussion in openSUSE whether to offer Trinity. They have
> currently decided not to, for the following reasons:
>
> [1] it's moribund with almost no code commits & major unfixed bugs
> open
>
> [2] SUSE still supports KDE 3 on old versions of SLED. It has fixed
> bugs still unfixed in TDE.
>
I wasn't aware of that.

> [3] Like Maté inherited a ton of code from GNOME 2 that's no longer
> maintained, TDE inherits a ton of code from KDE 3. This all needs to
> be maintained, because all its tooling has been superseded twice now,
> first by KDE 4 and then that by KDE 5. There is not enough manpower to
> do this.
>
> It is active but it has few users or maintainers.
>
> For me, I have not tried it, because I didn't personally like KDE 3.
>
> I liked KDE 1.

So did I, in about 1999. What it did was give you the basics, and it all 
worked,
>
> KDE 2 I found was cluttered. 

And bugs weren't fixed without a lot of users fussing. Bugzilla itself 
was a cast iron pita in those days. Demanding folks use it or be ignored 
cut their maintenance work by 95%. That eventually did get fixed, its 
actually useable for several years now, but old habits die hard and we 
both are well aware of that.

> Corel LinuxOS made it usable. I blogged 
> about this yesterday:

Must have missed that, don't get your blog.
>
> https://liam-on-linux.livejournal.com/59010.html
>
> Xandros, the continuation of Corel, tried but didn't get far at taming
> KDE 3. :-(

It did need taming. Some of its eye candy had the beginnings of a 
dangerous beast. TDE seems to have fixed everything except the 
intermittent loss of indexes in kmail 1.9.

> KDE 4 was beyond bloated into parody.

Not even Gas-X could fix that, and I suspect an 8 core 3.5GHz cpu and 
24Gb of memory would be overworked trying. I only have a 4 core 2.1 GHz 
phenom and 8 Gb.  Two days of uptime and I was a gigabyte into swap. 
Right now its 10 days uptime and 24 megs into swap.

> KDE 5 is only a tiny bit better 
> but loses important functionality  -- e.g. a panel can't span 2
> monitors any more.

Is that a qt5 problem, or kde's?  I don't have room for 2 monitors, but 
do have a plethora of workspaces. What you might use for monitors 
probably has a printer occupying that space here.

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Take care Liam.

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