'Emacs style' delete line shortcut (CTRL/U) doesn't work correctly in Firefox

[Peter Flynn]

On 12/10/18 14:53, Liam Proven wrote:[...]
> In work up to the late 1990s... let me think...
> 
[snip]

I probably bumped into some of those but I managed to discover UNIX and
then Linux early enough to be able to dictate my own work-pattern.

> WordPerfect Corp could probably make a decent fist of it, if they tried.

Actually they did. WP8 came with a fully-fledged XML editor using an
XML-based stylesheet mechanism. It worked well, but by then the XML
people at WP were fleeing for other (corporate/management) reasons.

> Ahhhh... I never tried on an existing file, or a new blank file. I
> just used the buffers there when I opened it to experiment.

Yes, it's not a very impressive start-up. Better than it used to be,
though :-(

> Interesting. I don't use _editor_ macros for that. In the old days, I
> wrote a bit of QuickBASIC or maybe a shell script.

I think this is why MSMcQ was so insistent in his description that if
you want macros, an editor should run a known, recognised programming
language to write them in, not some concoction of the authors' liking.

> Fair point. The rise of languages with embeddable pre-existing
> controls has helped that a lot, in my world.

Yes, I see a lot of TinyMCE, although it's not always that configurable
in context.

> Hmmm. Good point. Historical tradition and ego... :-(

Ego has a lot to do with it. Not that I'm decrying what RMS has done —
far from it, as he has had an uphill battle to fight.

> I think at the level of casual non-techies, using Macs or Windows,
> it's mostly all one now.

Yes, it's all basic point and click, and no knowledge needed (exc ept
for how to point and click :-)

The BIG missing bit in Linux is multimedia support: there are still too
many formats out there which will get you the grey rectangle and "This
format is not supported". Flash is obviously the worst offender by a
long way.

> And the real casual users are moving to tablets and phones, anyway.
> PCs are becoming arcane.

I no longer take my laptop away on a trip. My large phone and BT
keyboard work perfectly with a plaintext editor and a command window.

> This is one place ChromeOS is strong. Stronger than almost anyone's
> noticed. It's a clever play by Google.

Never used it. If I can't run Emacs, Saxon (Java), and LaTeX it's not
interesting.

> We have truly lost *so* much, it makes me almost weep.

Perhaps we can take this to a private thread: I am writing a paper for
next year's Markup UK on 'Software we have lost' and I'd appreciate
knowing what other people rate as 'lost'.

> Here's a wonderful ½hr 2013 presentation *pretending* to from 1973,
> about what _should_ have been the next 40 years. Watch it, laugh, and
> then mourn.

I'm missing the link to that.

///Peter