'Emacs style' delete line shortcut (CTRL/U) doesn't work correctly in Firefox

Liam Proven lproven at gmail.com
Thu Oct 11 10:59:34 UTC 2018


On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 at 12:48, Chris Green <cl at isbd.net> wrote:

> Yes, well mostly :-)  See this page:-
>
>     https://www.itprotoday.com/powertoys-windows-xp-review
>
> Scroll down to "Virtual Desktop Manager", it says:-
>
>     Many people don't realize this, but Windows NT has always had the
>     ability to generate multiple desktop displays, even though the OS
>     itself has never exposed this functionality in the UI. With Windows NT
>     4.0 and 2000, I believe, a virtual desktop manager was made available
>     through the Resource Kit. Now, for the first time, you can get one
>     free with XP.
>
>     The PowerToys version of this tool lets you work with up to four
>     virtual desktops, each of which contains a copy of the Start menu,
>     desktop, and taskbar. But each virtual desktop can be running
>     different applications. So if you're a serious power user, you might
>     separate groups of running applications into their own desktops.
>
>
> So it was always in NT and 2000 and I believe the XP PowerToys was
> somewhere on the XP installation media.  I used it on 2000 and I think
> I used to used it on XP but that was a long[ish] time ago and I don't
> remember how good (or bad) it was.

OK, yes, that's true.

Buried deep in WinNT is something rather like VAX-VMS. It has, in
principle, support for dumb terminals on serial ports, and graphical
terminals.

You could also just fit multiple graphics cards, add a bunch of USB
keyboards and mice, and associate them to each screen for a multihead
machine. Various companies "productized" this, e.g.

https://www.ibik.ru/

This is also how "remote desktop" works, and Windows Terminal Server.

One machine is perfectly able to host multiple sessions, on the same
screen and logged-in user, or different local physical screens, or on
graphical terminals, or remote sessions over a LAN or WAN.

So yes, it's there.

But as far as the local user scenario goes, it was crippled, because
each session is logically distinct and you can't move stuff from
screen to screen.

And it wasn't exposed to the user by default, which is what I'm getting at.

So yes, you're right, the product can do it and has more or less
forever -- Citrix WinServer could do it with a modified NT 3.

So yes, you are right, it was there, potentially.

But for a single user with one (even multihead) screen/keyboard/mouse,
it wasn't turned on by default, and if you hacked it with some 3rd
party tool -- e.g.

https://www.cnet.com/news/add-virtual-desktops-to-windows-xp-vista/

... *you couldn't move stuff from screen to screen*. Which *for me*
made it pretty much useless.

Win10 is the first ever version where it's in there, on, as a built-in
feature, for everyone.

So, I concede to your superior pedanticism. ;-) Yes it's always been
in there, yes it was theoretically possible.

But now it's a standard feature, exposed to the user, without any
significant compromises that I know of.

OK? :-)

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