Internet is dying - diagnostics

[Eddie G.]

Off Topic:

Ok so I apologize for this, but it seems my repeated cries out to the 
developer communities are just falling on deaf ears. I figured since 
this one has some form of issue with Internet / connectivity that it 
would fit:

I have been using Linux for quite a while now, and I love promoting it 
in all its variations, from Ubuntu and it's "offspring" 
(Lubuntu...Xubuntu....Kubuntu..etc) to the flavors of CEntOS and Red 
Hat.....(Fedora...OpenSuSE etc) I just have this to say. I have a friend 
that lives too far away for me to assist physically and in-person, and 
he's recently decided to try Linux,....where he lives there's only a 
wireless connection and not a wired one. I spent the better part of an 
afternoon and early evening trying to help him get his wireless working. 
He tried everything, from installing the b43-fwcutter installer to the 
Broadcom 4311 wireless drivers, and everything in between. Nothing 
worked. Was he installing on some esoteric or exotic piece of machinery? 
No. It was a somewhat older Dell Inspiron 15 inch laptop. In the end he 
had no choice but to go install Windows 10. I feel for him, since he's 
not in a place where there's a lot of help. And I won't get into any 
more particulars about that.

What I want to say/ask is this: How is it....in an era where we have 
cars that have AI......we have virtual machines of virtual machines that 
can host yet more virtual machines....we have "smart" 
homes...containers....cloud technology......servers nested within 
servers,.....big data that can be crunched onto a SQL database and then 
compressed even further.....we have medical procedures that actually 
require logins and are computer/robot based....in short we have made 
technological advances in the world of computing and science. 
YET.....THERES NO WAY TO BUILD A LINUX OS THAT COMES WITH THE NECESSARY 
DRIVERS SO THAT WIRELESS CAN WORK OUT-OF-THE-BOX? Like how is that even 
possible from a "Spock-Vulcan-Logic" perspective. Doesn't the demand FOR 
it "demand" that SOMETHING  be done? Is no one on fire enough to see 
that it gets done? Or has the entire Linux community gone 
dormant.....complacent to just sit back and coast on whatever technology 
is current and that will please the masses? I consider us a "family" of 
sorts, and we "lost" a family member to Windows.....WE LOST HIM TO 
WINDOWS!....the same OS we tell others to avoid because of security 
issues, because of its great big "bullseye" on its back.....seems no one 
cares anymore...or else someone would have done something by now about 
this. And yes, I also understand that it would take a lot of 
"programming power" to get something to work that might not include 
proprietary software, and yes, I know that its a thankless job and you 
might even be crucified if something else "breaks" when you install it 
or create it...or modify it....but I thought that's what the Open Source 
community WAS!...a group of brave souls....the modern day pirates who 
forged their own paths and didn't let the conforms of society dictate 
their destinies. I cannot fathom how someone can install 
Xubuntu....Kubuntu...Ubuntu....Linux Mint....and a slew of other OS'es 
and NONE of them have the necessary drivers to connect to the 
internet....unless you're willing to go through all these needless 
excess steps. Its sad, because I have admired the Open Source Community 
all my life, but to see this guy go the route of Windows 10 all because 
he couldn't connect to the internet easily.....well it just seems like 
no one cares enough......if I had the time to sit and learn programming 
at my age?.(almost 48!)...I would do it....but I don't so I can't And I 
understand that it might be some kind of gargantuan undertaking, but if 
no one "dared" back then.....where would we all be today?.....if no one 
"tried" where would our files and folders be right now?....on a Windows 
10 machine?....or maybe a MacBook? Well I hope someone finds this and 
reads it....and gets inspired to do SOMETHING......ANYTHING about it. 
Because it doesn't make our cause of trying to help others make the 
switch any easier if they're not able to do the "basics"! Just thought 
I'd put that out there....oh and?


Thanks For Listening!

L "Cubed" (L-ong L-ive L-inux!)



Eddie G.



On 10/22/2017 04:44 AM, Volker Wysk wrote:
> Hello
>
> It may be the router. I've reset it (power off and on), and the connection
> came back. It's not clear, though. I'll try again.
>
> Volker
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