snap umake?

Ralf Mardorf silver.bullet at zoho.com
Thu Oct 26 16:59:22 UTC 2017


On Thu, 26 Oct 2017 17:21:41 +0200, Liam Proven wrote:
>> I'd never heard of snap until today.  it's a sort light package
>> manager?  
>
>No.
>
>There's a new thing happening in Linux recently: containerised apps in
>distr-neutral distribution formats.

Loosely speaking

Advantage

To install to opt/ if an app requires a lib that would conflict with
the shared lib of a distro requires a statically link, that isn't
required by a container alike packaging system.

Disadvantage

The containers might install multiple versions of the same software,
if they don't share it, so this does cause much more storage and more
trusted maintainers maintaining security updates for many versions.

Advantage

The container approach might add some layer of security.

Disadvantage

Try to make a pro-audio sound server like jackd available to apps that
require jackd, provided by other of those packages. At best it works,
if you drop the extra security layer, if at all.

Debian is upstream for Ubuntu packages until now, but since SID is
a rolling development version of Debian, the container approach won't
fit good to Debian. Don't expect that real rolling releases like Arch
would support snaps, it was discussed a better alternative to it, but
even this was damned.

Learn how to build a regular Debian/Ubuntu package and a Snap thingy
and report back what requires less effort, then take an educated guess
how many developers from upstream (not Ubuntu's "upstream", I'm talking
about distro independent "real" upstream, software developers) are
willing to provide a Snap thingy and/or one of the several
alternatives, especially if they already provide DEBs, RPMs and even
tar balls you directly could copy to opt/.

IMO it's just a fashion that desktop computers try to adapt allegedly
advantages of current smart phone and tablet PC fashions. For a lot of
usages BSD and Linux provide real advantages, that get lost by this
fashion.

There is only one company that provides very good systems following the
fashions, this company does enforce usage of hardware and makes
computers very expensive. They follow a hardcore restriction policy and
stop support for their expensive products, a few years after they were
sold.





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