Software updater snuck in a package that is unwanted

[Bret Busby]

On 18/10/2017, Paul Smith <paul at mad-scientist.net> wrote:
> Please stop the unnecessary hyperbole and misuse of incendiary terms to
> mean things that no one else understands them to mean.
>
>> That is why I regard the package as a trojan.
>> It can not be simply and easily and cleanly, removed.
>
> Utterly ridiculous.  That is not even close to what "trojan" means.
>
> The kernel can't be removed... is that a trojan?  You can't remove GNU
> libc, is that a trojan as well?
>
> Trojan has a well-understood, and pejorative, meaning.  By defaming
> anything that doesn't work the way you want it to as a "trojan" you're
> insulting the people who work hard to provide you with amazing software
> at no charge.
>
>> Its design hooks it into other packages, to prevent its removal.
>
> You're completely wrong.  There's nothing wrong with the design of
> unattended-upgrades and it doesn't "hook into other packages".
>
> What's happening is that other packages have declared dependencies on
> unattended-upgrades, so that when you try to remove it those other
> packages are marked for removal as well.
>
> The problem, if there is one, is with those other packages not
> unattended-ugprades.
>
> If, instead of wailing about trojans and tossing insults around, you
> actually posted relevant details of the problems you are having along
> with a polite "can anyone help with this", there would be a lot less
> useless back-and-forth and you'd get your problems solved much more
> quickly.
>
>
> On Wed, 2017-10-18 at 00:54 +0800, Bret Busby wrote:
>> The following packages will be REMOVED:
>>    ubuntu-mate-core* ubuntu-mate-desktop* unattended-upgrades*
>> 0 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 3 to remove and 0 not to upgrade.
>> After this operation, 348 kB disk space will be freed.
>> Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
>> "
>>
>> Therein lies the rub.
>
> This looks like a misconfiguration/problem with your distribution
> (Ubuntu MATE).  Clearly the problem is with ubuntu-mate packages:
> apparently they're marked to depend on unattended-upgrades.


That is pure BS, like the rest of your BS post.

Prithee explain why, if the ubuntu-mate packages have a dependency on
the trojan package, they work quite well, when that trojan package is
NOT installed.

You are obviously, just trolling, rather than making any attempt to
help with the problem.

-- 

Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia

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