Software updater snuck in a package that is unwanted
Paul Smith
paul at mad-scientist.net
Tue Oct 17 17:23:36 UTC 2017
Please stop the unnecessary hyperbole and misuse of incendiary terms to
mean things that no one else understands them to mean.
> That is why I regard the package as a trojan.
> It can not be simply and easily and cleanly, removed.
Utterly ridiculous. That is not even close to what "trojan" means.
The kernel can't be removed... is that a trojan? You can't remove GNU
libc, is that a trojan as well?
Trojan has a well-understood, and pejorative, meaning. By defaming
anything that doesn't work the way you want it to as a "trojan" you're
insulting the people who work hard to provide you with amazing software
at no charge.
> Its design hooks it into other packages, to prevent its removal.
You're completely wrong. There's nothing wrong with the design of
unattended-upgrades and it doesn't "hook into other packages".
What's happening is that other packages have declared dependencies on
unattended-upgrades, so that when you try to remove it those other
packages are marked for removal as well.
The problem, if there is one, is with those other packages not
unattended-ugprades.
If, instead of wailing about trojans and tossing insults around, you
actually posted relevant details of the problems you are having along
with a polite "can anyone help with this", there would be a lot less
useless back-and-forth and you'd get your problems solved much more
quickly.
On Wed, 2017-10-18 at 00:54 +0800, Bret Busby wrote:
> The following packages will be REMOVED:
> ubuntu-mate-core* ubuntu-mate-desktop* unattended-upgrades*
> 0 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 3 to remove and 0 not to upgrade.
> After this operation, 348 kB disk space will be freed.
> Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
> "
>
> Therein lies the rub.
This looks like a misconfiguration/problem with your distribution
(Ubuntu MATE). Clearly the problem is with ubuntu-mate packages:
apparently they're marked to depend on unattended-upgrades. I don't
see this problem with my distribution (Ubuntu GNOME):
$ sudo apt purge unattended-upgrades
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
unattended-upgrades*
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
After this operation, 319 kB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
and others have reported base Ubuntu doesn't have this problem.
So, I recommend you contact the Ubuntu MATE folks and ask about this.
Try one or more of: https://ubuntu-mate.org/community/
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