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Sun Dec 3 07:47:49 UTC 2017
Ralf Mardorf schreef op 03-12-2017 8:19:
> Perhaps we could shorten this discord and simply agree that the shred
> manpage "shouts" (written by capital letters) "CAUTION".
More partial citing.
Ralf, why don't you just stop the intentional misinforming?
"In the case of ext3 file systems, the above disclaimer applies (and
shred is thus of limited effectiveness) only in data=journal mode, which
journals file data in addition to just metadata. In both the
data=ordered (default) and data=writeback modes, shred works as usual."
WORKS AS USUAL.
Of course there is a reason for caution, but this applies to filesystems
And yes, it needs to be said that "sfill" is a required companion.
However, consciously misinforming people by explicitly, expressly and
intentionally misciting information.
Is just not okay.
The manpage itself is also written in a way that induces unnecessary
fear, because all of the examples it cites are not in common use or not
relevant to the average person.
* RAID based redundancy?
* NFS 3 caches?
* compressed file systems?
It is pretty clear that to a regular Ubuntu user working on a local
shred works just fine, with the addendum that some editors may create
multiple left-over copies on disk and you also need to use "sfill"
This is empowering information.
And yes, you are creating Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt.
That's EXACTLY what you're doing!!!!
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