Shock announcement

[Tony Scott]

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Tony Scott
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On 6 April 2017 at 17:54, Xen <list at xenhideout.nl> wrote:
> Ken D'Ambrosio schreef op 06-04-2017 18:06:
>>
>> Funny.  I seem to recall Unity coming out in 10.10 or so.  You know --
>> five years or so *after* Ubuntu had made itself a "reconisable brand."
>
>
> What's more funny is that I didn't know about Ubuntu until it already had
> Unity; that my first encounter with Ubuntu was with Unity; and that the
> first ISO I probably burned (not sure) was 12.10.
>
> That while I did use OpenSUSE 10 at that time (?) so which is more funny,
> the one that makes you laugh, or the one that gives you joy? ;-).
>
>>  If you're so wed to a single UI that it defines your entire
>> experience, well, I think you're overly dependent on what the UI
>> means. As for what Ubuntu means to me:
>
>
> I don't even use that UI, I am saying it as a recognisable thing.
>
>> * Ease-of-setup
>> * Not getting lost in the "free/libre" weeds and politics
>> * Frequent releases
>> * Lots of easy hardware support
>> * Long-term support for releases (VASTLY longer than Debian's)
>> * Actual corporate backing which helps with bringing into companies
>> * Support for *multiple* UIs: GNOME, MATE, KDE, and, yeah, Unity.
>
>
> Sure, I just think the "pivot" will disappear.
>
> Ubuntu's peak popularity in Google search was in 2007 and has since seen a
> steady decline. But I don't know why that should be relevant here. Ubuntu
> 10.10 was at 10.10.10 ;-). OpenSUSE has also seen a steady decline of the
> same order. But I think OpenSUSE just lost its appeal over the years,
> becoming more of a commercialised, or hard-to-become-part-of-the-community
> system and not everyone is as fond of the leadership of its chairman.
>
> Whereas Ubuntu, to me, grew in that period in that same sense.
>
> Still not sure why that is relevant :p.
>
> I thought Mr. Shuttleworth whenever he appeared in media had something good
> and feisty to say.
>
> I just hope and wonder whether or not the "popular interest" will remain
> after the "flagship" UI disappears, if it does, and don't question whether
> it will, please. Ubuntu Gnome is to me more of a "Kiosk computer" than
> anything else (Gnome 3 I mean) and although that is a useful thing to
> showcase to new people, and it does mean that Ubuntu will move more in the
> direction of Debian as a server-OS.
>
> I am sure the Ubuntu Gnome people will be happy with it as they have been
> doing good work and will probably get more support now?
>
> But I guess I should stop talking :p
>
>> At the end of the day, Ubuntu is way more than a single UI.  And for
>> that matter, I doubt that Unity will be thrown in the trash; it will
>> simply lose its place as the primary target.  I would not be surprised
>> at all if it continues to have extra-Canonical support.
>
>
> That's ... the same as ending up in the trash, because there is no one else
> who will pick it up, you know.
>
> No matter how I personally may have disliked Unity as a core UI to use for
> everyday use,
>
> I hope that perhaps they will take on Gnome 3 with the same vigor and
> continue to give it their personal brand, that's all.
>
> Regards.
>
>
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