Shock announcement

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Ken D'Ambrosio schreef op 06-04-2017 18:06:
> Funny.  I seem to recall Unity coming out in 10.10 or so.  You know --
> five years or so *after* Ubuntu had made itself a "reconisable brand."

What's more funny is that I didn't know about Ubuntu until it already 
had Unity; that my first encounter with Ubuntu was with Unity; and that 
the first ISO I probably burned (not sure) was 12.10.

That while I did use OpenSUSE 10 at that time (?) so which is more 
funny, the one that makes you laugh, or the one that gives you joy? ;-).

>  If you're so wed to a single UI that it defines your entire
> experience, well, I think you're overly dependent on what the UI
> means. As for what Ubuntu means to me:

I don't even use that UI, I am saying it as a recognisable thing.

> * Ease-of-setup
> * Not getting lost in the "free/libre" weeds and politics
> * Frequent releases
> * Lots of easy hardware support
> * Long-term support for releases (VASTLY longer than Debian's)
> * Actual corporate backing which helps with bringing into companies
> * Support for *multiple* UIs: GNOME, MATE, KDE, and, yeah, Unity.

Sure, I just think the "pivot" will disappear.

Ubuntu's peak popularity in Google search was in 2007 and has since seen 
a steady decline. But I don't know why that should be relevant here. 
Ubuntu 10.10 was at 10.10.10 ;-). OpenSUSE has also seen a steady 
decline of the same order. But I think OpenSUSE just lost its appeal 
over the years, becoming more of a commercialised, or 
hard-to-become-part-of-the-community system and not everyone is as fond 
of the leadership of its chairman.

Whereas Ubuntu, to me, grew in that period in that same sense.

Still not sure why that is relevant :p.

I thought Mr. Shuttleworth whenever he appeared in media had something 
good and feisty to say.

I just hope and wonder whether or not the "popular interest" will remain 
after the "flagship" UI disappears, if it does, and don't question 
whether it will, please. Ubuntu Gnome is to me more of a "Kiosk 
computer" than anything else (Gnome 3 I mean) and although that is a 
useful thing to showcase to new people, and it does mean that Ubuntu 
will move more in the direction of Debian as a server-OS.

I am sure the Ubuntu Gnome people will be happy with it as they have 
been doing good work and will probably get more support now?

But I guess I should stop talking :p

> At the end of the day, Ubuntu is way more than a single UI.  And for
> that matter, I doubt that Unity will be thrown in the trash; it will
> simply lose its place as the primary target.  I would not be surprised
> at all if it continues to have extra-Canonical support.

That's ... the same as ending up in the trash, because there is no one 
else who will pick it up, you know.

No matter how I personally may have disliked Unity as a core UI to use 
for everyday use,

I hope that perhaps they will take on Gnome 3 with the same vigor and 
continue to give it their personal brand, that's all.

Regards.