update-manager --no-focus-on-map ??

rikona rikona at sonic.net
Sat Jan 2 02:43:11 UTC 2016

Friday, January 1, 2016, 7:17:04 AM, Liam wrote:

> On 1 January 2016 at 07:14, rikona <rikona at sonic.net> wrote:
>> Yes, you probably have the knowledge to make this work well for you.
>>> Inexperienced users should be aware that security upgrades are very
>>> important and it might be better to stay with update-manager.
>> I know much less - that sounds good to me. :-))

> Ralf here is kind of a fundamentalist.

> The thing about using `apt-get dist-upgrade -y` is that it installs
> *everything* in the latest set of updates, without asking you, without
> confirming. It just does it. That seems to be what Ralf is *against*
> -- he wants you and all users to learn what packages their system
> comprises, what each does, and to understand how they inter-relate.

> Me, I think this is unreasonable and tell people to just install
> everything, and if they have time, reboot just in case. It's simpler,
> it's more thorough, it just works.

>> Opera is my other big mem hog - I may have 100-150 tabs open in a few
>> instances of Opera and it can get to where swap is full, which gives
>> problems - flakiness and eventual crashes.

> I'll answer this after my next question.

>> My next box will have a LOT more memory!! :-)

> OK, how much does the current one have?

Has 8GB, but I still get to the point where Mem & Swp are FULL, and
virt is MUCH larger than both Mem+Swp. Results in flaky at least and
soon a crash. Also Opera does not seem to be able to deal with such a
crash. When Opera crashes with 'normal ' mem usage [Mem & Swp not
nearly full] it offers to restore the state before the crash, which it
does pretty well. In the huge virt case, opera restores with a just a
blank page.

> Currently the sweet spot is 8GB. It's cheap, and 12-16GB won't give
> much noticeable difference for most people.

Hmmmm... Let's say I go to 16 or even 32 G. That is still much smaller
than what virt indicates when Opera gets loaded. Are you suggesting
that 16 or 32 G would NOT solve that problem?

Appreciate your help...



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