Title bar/menu problem on 14.04

[Jim Byrnes]

On 02/03/2016 04:00 AM, Colin Law wrote:
> On 2 February 2016 at 23:23, Jim Byrnes <jf_byrnes at comcast.net> wrote:
>>   ...
>> When I open up System Settings, Unsettings is the last icon on the right end
>> of the Personel section.  Having said that I did install Unsettings from a
>> ppa before I noticed it in System Settings. Your question made me wonder if
>> my installing it put it there so I logged in to a guest account. Unsettings
>> is in the System Settings on the guest account also.  I only have logged
>> into a guest account when asked to for trouble shooting like this so I don't
>> have much experience with it. So is it possible that my installing
>> unsettings when logged in is effecting the guest account also?
>
> One would not expect it to appear in Settings until after it was
> installed.  Once installed it is available to all users (as it the
> case with other applications).  The reason I have been suggesting
> checking it in the guest account is that the guest account will be
> independent of any changes that you have made in your own account.
> However I don't know whether it is possible that just installing
> unsettings may have some effect on all users, or if settings may bleed
> from one user to another.  What I suggest is that you try booting from
> live image and see if you see the problem there, before changing
> anything else.  If you do see it there then it is a bug or hardware
> issue, if not then it is something to do with the setup of your
> machine.  I have to say that I suspect that it is an unsettings issue,
> but I am not going to install it to find out just in case it is not
> easy to recover from any changes it may make.

Please don't install unsettings, no use creating a potential problem for 
yourself.  When I get a little free time later today I will try that or 
maybe I will free up some space on my laptop and install 14.04 next Win 
10 and Mint.

>>
>>> When I use the system settings to put the menu in the window bar and
>>> hold down the mouse button the pointer does change to a hand, it has
>>> to in order to allow you to drag the window.  It takes about a third
>>> of a second so it /is/ necessary to let go of the button within that
>>> time in order to select a menu item, but a third of a second is
>>> plenty, for me anyway.  I have noticed that if you hold down the mouse
>>> and immediately move the mouse then it immediately switches to drag
>>> mode, so if your mouse is particularly sensitive and generates a move
>>> event then it might cause the effect you are seeing.
>>
>>
>> I only see this behavior on Firefox,Thunderbird and LibreOffice. Are you
>> seeing the hand on other applications also?
>
> What do you mean by "this behaviour"?  Do you mean the pointer does
> not change to a hand, or that it takes longer to change.  I see it
> change to a hand on all apps that I have tried, including the terminal
> and gedit for example, but not until about 1/3 second has elapsed
> (unless I move the mouse as I click).

FF,TB & LO are the only applications where if I put the mouse pointer 
over a menu and click it at my normal speed, the pointer turns into a 
hand and the menu does not drop down. To get the menu to drop down in 
those apps I must press and release the mouse button very rapidly.

I do not see the pointer turn into a hand on the terminal and gedit. On 
those apps I can press and hold down the mouse button for as long as I 
want and the only thing that happens is the menu drops down. Moving the 
mouse as I click also does nothing except drop down the menu on those apps.

>>
>> I have tried using a trackball and an HP optical mouse and get the same
>> results, given what you said above I guess I need to look a mouse
>> sensitivity again.
>
> Although I used the word sensitivity that is not really what I meant.
> What I meant was that perhaps for some reason it is not possible (or
> very difficult) to click the mouse without it moving.  What happens if
> you position the pointer over the menu then lift it well off the
> surface (not that easy whilst keeping the pointer on the menu, but
> possible) and then click it?

This is what I like about a trackball. If I take my fingers off of the 
ball the pointer is rock solid and does not move, unless I pound on my 
desk or do something else to create vibration.  This makes it ideal for 
scrolling through long messages.

> Colin
>


Regards,  Jim